Hmm...  Problem disappeared (solved).

With Debian Sid (unstable) I have:

timidity 2.13.2-20
jackd and libjack0  0.116.1-2


Some how I got an error when trying to connect Kmid to timidity before.  
Timidity started fine with

   timidity  -iA -B2,8 -Oj

but when trying to connect kmid to it, timidity gave error that it couldn't 
open a connection to JACK, something similar to when jackd hadn't started:

   .Couldn't open JACK device (`j')

Timidity stopped then.  I did check and made sure that jackd had started but 
still got the same error then.

Even with the CVS version of timidity in /usr/local didn't help until I change 
to use the new jack clien API.

Now, after a reboot a couple of days later (I only reboot once in a while), 
both timidity versions I have seem to work fine with jackd.

So, please ignore my previous post about the new jackd API call.  If anyone 
knows the culprit, I'd like to know.  Thanks,

Jimmy



--- On Thu, 1/15/09, jimmy <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: jimmy <[email protected]>
> Subject: Timidity and recent jackd releases --  WAS -- re: Running Timidity 
> as a service
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:08 AM
> FYI, regarding Timidity with recent jackd versions.  Hope it
> may save some of you some time along the way.
> 
> With Debian Sid (Unstable), I have 
> 
>    jackd and libjack0 version 0.116.1-2
>    custom kernel 2.6.25.9 with high resolution timer
>    Timidity CVS extracted 20090108
> 
> Hardware:
> 
>    Intel 2.4GHz (old) CPU.
>    Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97
>    Creative Labs SB Live! 5/1
> 
> besides the fact that it didn't work until I tried
> changing jack_client_new() to using jack_client_open() in
> timidity/jack_a.c as previously posted.
> 
> If someone with CVS write access wants to, please do update
> the Timidity code base.  But the Timidity project lead may
> want to do a point release of the Timidity code first, so
> anyone who want or need to use the code for older jackd can
> still use the code up to now.  Since the new jackd verion
> breaks the old jack_clien_new() API.
> 
> Anyway, my use of buffer parameters used to be -B2,8 as in:
> 
>    timidity -iAD -B2,8 -Oj
> 
> results in slow, stretched-out, noisy sounds.  So I tried
> using:
> 
>    timidity -iAD -B2,12 -Oj
> 
> That sounded OK but there is a time lag in the play-back. 
> The play-back time lag improves slightly with:
> 
>    timidity -iAD -B2,10 -Oj
> 
> But when I tried playing along with vkeybd, that didn't
> work very well for real-time.  Finally trying:
> 
>    timidity -iAD -B1,10 -Oj
> 
> seems to work best for me with both midi playback and
> vkeybd usage concurrently.
> 
> Jimmy
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, jimmy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > From: jimmy <[email protected]>
> > Subject: re: Running Timidity as a service
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 7:15 AM
> > > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:29:48 +0000
> > > From: Jonathan Gazeley
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [timidity-talk] Running Timidity as a
> service
> > 
> > . . .
> > 
> > > [jonat...@poseidon ~]$ sudo service timidity
> start
> > > [jonat...@poseidon ~]$ file mcoputils.cc: line
> 499
> > (static
> > > std::string 
> > > Arts::MCOPUtils::mcopDirectory()): assertion
> failed:
> > (home
> > > != 0)
> > > HOME environment variable not set?
> > > jack_client_new: deprecated
> > > Cannot connect to server socket err = No such
> file or
> > > directory
> > > Cannot connect to server socket
> > > jack server is not running or cannot be started
> > > no message buffer overruns
> > > Couldn't open output device
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I tested that I can successfully run timidity
> using
> > sudo:
> > > 
> > > [jonat...@poseidon ~]$ sudo timidity -iA
> > > TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
> > > Opening sequencer port: 128:0 128:1 128:2 128:3
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have any ideas what might be up?
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jonathan
> > 
> > I use Debian, not Fedora, so there might be some
> config
> > differences.
> > 
> > I don't know about the HOME environment thing
> right off
> > the bat.  If someone knows, please answer.  Else,
> someone
> > may have to look into Timidity source code to figure
> out.
> > 
> > As for server socket error, and "jack server is
> not
> > running or cannot be started", I think it is one
> and
> > the same.  The problem is the new "jackd"
> version,
> > the message "jack_client_new: deprecated"
> points
> > to the real cause.
> > 
> > Timidity code still uses jack_client_new() as a mean
> to
> > connect to jackd.  However, with the new jackd, and
> libjack0
> > both are at version 0.116.1-2 in Debian Sid
> (unstable), the
> > call to jack_client_new() doesn't seem to work.
> > 
> > I tried the following code in jack_a.c
> > 
> > static int detect(void)
> > {
> >     jack_client_t *client;
> >         jack_status_t status;
> >     /* ---OLD--- client =
> > jack_client_new(TIMIDITY_JACK_CLIENT_NAME); */
> >     /* open a connection to the JACK server */
> >     client = jack_client_open (TIMIDITY_JACK_CLIENT_NAME,
> > JackNullOption, &status);
> >     if (! client) {
> >             ctl->cmsg(CMSG_ERROR, VERB_NORMAL,
> >                     "jack_client_open() failed, status =
> > 0x%2.0x\n", status);
> >             return 0;
> >     }
> > 
> >     jack_client_close(client);
> >     return 1; /* found */
> > }
> > 
> > 
> > and equivalent code in
> > 
> >    static int open_jack(void)
> > 
> > function of the same file.  It seems jackd
> deliberately
> > breaks that old jack_client_new() API call. 
> Otherwise, they
> > could have easily use similar code as shown above to
> > implement jack_client_new(), which is simple enough to
> keep
> > old apps working without changes.  Either that or they
> > don't care for backward compatibility in this
> case, and
> > force everyone to use new code.
> > 
> > Jimmy


      

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