Yes I am also concerned about slotted ACKs.

Section 5.2 considers the fact that it is not neccesary to fire a timer
every 20 symbols and proposes Adaptive Timer Resolution mechanism. but
later it quotes proposed mechanism could not solve the starvation problem
at the data rate of 2 frames/sec.

As paper title gives a view that TinyOS concepts is the limitation for
supporting beacon mode. But I think the real bottleneck is hardware (MCU)
capabilities itself. I am also trying understand how any other modren
operating system with preemptive scheduling (for ex. t-kernel) can handle
the situation.

Thanking you,
D. Manjunath

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, [iso-8859-1] Diego Bartolomé Arquillo wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am agree with Phil about the section 5.1 of the paper. It is not neccesary 
> to fire a timer every 20 symbols. I think the statement: "In order to 
> communicate in a beacon-enabled network, a timer expiring every 20 symbols, 
> i.e. 320 us, is needed" is not correct. The only real problem that I see, 
> could be the related in section 5.3. If it is true that the transmission of 
> an acknowledgment from software require 132 symbols, it will not be possible 
> to carry out the timing requirements for slotted acknowledgments.
> BR,
> Diego
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Philip Levis
> Enviado el: martes, 08 de agosto de 2006 0:00
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu
> Asunto: Re: [Tinyos-help] Re: IEEE-802.15.4 - Beacon Mode
>
> On Aug 5, 2006, at 4:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >  Dear friends,
> >
> >         The paper entitled "EVALUATING THE USE OF MOTES AND TINYOS FOR
> > A MOBILE SENSOR PLATFORM"
> >     evaluates 802.15.4 (beaconmode) on a real sensor network of micaz and
> > telos motes.
> >     Suprisingly, it says beacon mode can not be supported on
> >     capabilities that present motes posses. Any comments on  the paper
> >     will be very useful.......
> >
> >     please google for the paper as attachment mails are bouncing back!!!!
>
> I'm not sure if I understand all of the conclusions made in the paper; among 
> other things, Jonathan Hui and Joe Polastre implemented
> 802.15.4 beaconing mode as part of the implementation of SP.
>
> For example, in section 5.1 you state that 15.4 requires a periodic 20 symbol 
> timer, and that this makes it impossible to implement properly. I don't think 
> your statement is correct. It requires a timer with a fidelity of 1 symbol, 
> but there's nothing there that means that you need to fire a timer every 20 
> symbols... why would you need to do so? You're picking a random number in the 
> range of random
> (2^(BE-1)) unit periods...
>
> Phil
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