Hi John,
See below.

///jon


From: John THompson [mailto:thompa....@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 06 September, 2016 00:14
To: Jon Maloy <ma...@donjonn.com>
Cc: Jon Maloy <jon.ma...@ericsson.com>; tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [tipc-discussion] BC rcv link acked stuck after receiving a named 
with a BC ACK of 0

Hi Jon,

The packet I see the error happening on is when receiving a usr 11
(NAME_DISTRIBUTOR) over the unicast link.
The reception of this packet is happening interleaved with processing
a packet (or packets) on the BC link that has brought the peer up.
The BC link packet processing has the tipc_bcast_lock and the unicast
pkt processing cannot get the bcast lock for a while.
When it can get the lock it processes the BC ack == 0 from the NAME_DISTRIBUTOR
packet and sets the acked field on the BC link to 0.

The debug / call trace below is me trying to show from the debug I captured 
what happens.
If I add debug for each pkt the problem doesn't reproduce.


tipc_rcv 1.1.5:vcs_mgmt-1.1.18:vcs_mgmt bc ack rcv 0 uc seq 3 ack 0 user 11 
type 0
  + calls tipc_bcast_ack_rcv
tipc_rcv
  + tipc_bcast_ack_rcv
    + tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv broadcast-link-5-18 bc ack 53574 - can't ack as link 
not up 1 or peer not up 1

What kind of packet was this?

tipc_rcv
  + tipc_bcast_ack_rcv
    + tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv broadcast-link-5-18 bc ack 53574 - can't ack as link 
not up 0 or peer not up 1

And this?

===
Somewhere at this point bc_peer_is_up gets set
===
tipc_rcv
  + tipc_bcast_ack_rcv
    + tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv broadcast-link-5-18 bc ack - acked (53574) less than 
it was previously (53574)
tipc_rcv
  + tipc_bcast_ack_rcv
    + tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv broadcast-link-5-18 bc ack - acked (53574) less than 
it was previously (53574)

  + from tipc_rcv on unicast link
    + tipc_bcast_ack_rcv Going to set BC ACK outside window, new 0 old 53574 
win 200
      - dump_stack
CPU: 2 PID: 19 Comm: ksoftirqd/2 Tainted: P           O    4.4.6-at1 #3
Call Trace:
[a3093a80] [806943b0] dump_stack+0x84/0xb0 (unreliable)
[a3093a90] [c1507314] tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv+0x244/0x250 [tipc]
[a3093ab0] [c1501b04] tipc_bcast_ack_rcv+0x74/0xd0 [tipc]
[a3093ae0] [c1511a08] tipc_rcv+0x468/0xa30 [tipc]
[a3093b80] [c150218c] tipc_bcast_stop+0xfc/0x7b0 [tipc]
[a3093b90] [8050d6a8] __netif_receive_skb_core+0x468/0xa10
[a3093c30] [80510b6c] netif_receive_skb_internal+0x3c/0xe0
[a3093c60] [8064b2b8] br_handle_frame_finish+0x1d8/0x4d0
[a3093cd0] [8064b7a0] br_handle_frame+0x1f0/0x330
[a3093d20] [8050d738] __netif_receive_skb_core+0x4f8/0xa10
[a3093dc0] [805119f0] process_backlog+0x90/0x140
[a3093df0] [8051103c] net_rx_action+0x15c/0x320
[a3093e50] [8002594c] __do_softirq+0x13c/0x250
[a3093eb0] [80025ab0] run_ksoftirqd+0x50/0x80
[a3093ec0] [800434c4] smpboot_thread_fn+0x1e4/0x1f0
[a3093ef0] [8003fb38] kthread+0xc8/0xe0
[a3093f40] [8000eed8] ret_from_kernel_thread+0x5c/0x64

I am going to send in a patch that adds checking for a valid BC ack (being 
within the window size) to
tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv.

Not sure that is a good idea. Even if #0 happens to be within a valid range it 
is still invalid, and may lead to an inadvertent release of packets which are 
not ready to be released yet.  I’ll try to take a closer look at this today.

///jon

Cheers,
JT

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:57 PM, John THompson 
<thompa....@gmail.com<mailto:thompa....@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Jon,

I have verified that the patch is included in my build.
2d18ac4ba7454a426047 (“ tipc: extend broadcast link initialization criteria”)

I am trying to verify which packets are received when the problem occurs but I 
am having trouble getting the information out of my system at the moment.

I will keep trying.
Thanks,
JT


On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Jon Maloy 
<ma...@donjonn.com<mailto:ma...@donjonn.com>> wrote:


On 08/29/2016 06:48 PM, Jon Maloy wrote:
Hi John,
Sorry for my late answer; I was on vacation for a few days.
It seems I gave you the wrong commit reference in my previous mail. The one I 
really meant was
2d18ac4ba7454a426047 (“ tipc: extend broadcast link initialization criteria”)

This one explains why the first packets sometimes get an invalid ack number, 
but also remedies it, and I simply cannot see how an invalid ack #0 can ever be 
accepted when this patch is applied.
I see no reason why this patch shouldn’t also be present in you code, but just 
to make sure, can you confirm this?

I am right now wondering if a retransmission is the problem:
1: we receive pkt #2 which contains ack #1, so we set bc_peer_is_up to true.
Since only LINK_PROTO/STATE messages can cause bc_peer_is_up to go true, the 
likely sequence is rather
1: We receive a STATE message with unicast ack #1. This message should also 
contain a valid, with high probability non-zero, bc_ack. bc_peer_is_up is set 
to true.
2: We receive unicast pkt#1 (BCAST init or NAMED) which contains the invalid 
unicast ack #0. This one is now accepted.

I believe this may happen, because STATE messages, contrary to data packets, 
are sent as TC_PRIO_CONTROL, and may sometimes bypass data messages, but I 
cannot see it happening as often and consistently as you seem to be observing 
it. Another possibility is that bc_ack in the received STATE message also is an 
invalid zero, although I cannot see how this can happen either.

Regards
///jon
2: we receive pkt #1 retransmitted with ack #0. This now gets accepted, and we 
are in trouble.

I’ll try to figure out a solution to this, but it may be possible for you to 
verify this first.

BR
///jon



From: John THompson [mailto:thompa....@gmail.com<mailto:thompa....@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2016 16:22
To: Jon Maloy <jon.ma...@ericsson.com<mailto:jon.ma...@ericsson.com>>
Cc: 
tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [tipc-discussion] BC rcv link acked stuck after receiving a named 
with a BC ACK of 0

Hi Jon,

To clarify my previous email regarding the behaviour observed,

What happens over time:
+ remove bc peer
...
some time until peer rejoins
...
+ add bc peer
+ tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv
   link is up = false, node is up = false
   (this gets called a number of times until both the link and node are up)

+ tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv
   l->acked set to valid ack
...
+ tipc_rcv - usr 5 or 11, bc_ack = 0
   + tipc_bcast_ack_rcv
     + tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv
       sets l->acked to 0

Regards,
JT

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:06 AM, John THompson 
<thompa....@gmail.com<mailto:thompa....@gmail.com><mailto:thompa....@gmail.com<mailto:thompa....@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Hi Jon,

It is a similar problem in terms of what happens to the bc link.  I do have 
that patch applied.

I have added debug through the remove bc peer and various other functions and 
the setting of the acked field to 0 is occurring when processing a packet from 
named (msg user 11) or BCAST protocol (msg user 5).

Thanks,
JT

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Jon Maloy 
<jon.ma...@ericsson.com<mailto:jon.ma...@ericsson.com><mailto:jon.ma...@ericsson.com<mailto:jon.ma...@ericsson.com>>>
 wrote:
Hi John,
This sounds a lot like the problem I tried to fix in
a71eb720355c2 ("tipc: ensure correct broadcast send buffer release when peer is 
lost")
So, either that patch is not present in your kernel (if it is 4.7 it is 
supposed to be) or my solution somehow hasn't solved the problem.
Can you confirm that the patch is there?

BR
///jon
-----Original Message-----
From: John THompson 
[mailto:thompa....@gmail.com<mailto:thompa....@gmail.com><mailto:thompa....@gmail.com<mailto:thompa....@gmail.com>>]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 August, 2016 20:21
To: 
tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net><mailto:tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: [tipc-discussion] BC rcv link acked stuck after receiving a named with 
a BC
ACK of 0

Hi,

I am running TIPC 2.0 on Linux 4.7 on a cluster of Freescale QorIQ P2040
and Marvell Armada-XP processors.  There are 10 nodes in all.
When 2 of the nodes are removed, then rejoin the cluster we sometimes see
behaviour where the TIPC BC link gets stuck and eventually the backlog gets
full.  the 2 nodes that are joining have already connected together.

The problem occurs when the BC link sndnxt value is greater than 32k on one
of the nodes (call it NODE1) and 2 nodes begin to join.
When NODE1 detects the joining nodes, at some early point after they have
joined, NODE1 receives a NAMED publication with a BC ack of 0.  NODE1
immediately sets its BC acked to 0 and tries to ack packets off the
transmq.  No packets get removed as the new ack value doesn't match any of
the packets that need to be acked.

The problem doesn't recover because in tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv it ensures that
the new acked value is more than the old acked value.  When the values are
greater than 32k apart this means that 0 can indeed be greater than
40,000.  So when new packets are processed the new BC ack value is
considered less than the stored one (0).

This results in the BC transmq getting full and the backlog getting full,
thereby preventing communication over the BC link between nodes.

I am persisting in trying to work out why the NAMED publication has a BC
ack of 0, which I think is the root cause of the problem.

I think that tipc_link_bc_ack_rcv needs an extra check to ensure that an
invalid BC ack value cannot be set.  I am defining invalid as being an
acked value that is greater than the current BC acked value + the link
window.

Thanks,
John
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