I respectfully disagree with much of what you have said, Mike, and probably 
because I come from a cognitive perspective where almost everything I do is 
repeated measures. Most of the threats to internal validity that you have noted 
are not a problem with the type of research that I do, as long as I have good 
counterbalancing or randomized presentation of conditions. AND, I have the 
advantage of reduced error and a need for fewer participants. And I do believe 
that despite the lack of random assignment to groups ( which in the case of 
repeated measures is a nonsense), that I still have a true "experiment".

However, I think we are getting far afield from the original posting in which, 
as I recall, a student compared groups based on survey responses and called it 
an experiment......

Annette


Quoting Mike Scoles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm going to stick with Sir Fisher and reserve the term "experiment" for
> situations where there is random assignment to conditions. I do not know of
> any within-subjects designs that would not be better as mixed designs.
> Within-subject designs are too easily compromised by history, maturation,
> instrumentation,  attrition, and (sometimes) test sensitization and
> regression issues.  Let's see, the only one of the "Big 7" that I left out
> was subject selection--the major problem with quasi-experiments.  Of course,
> good quasi-experiments can provide information as useful as a marginal
> experiment.
> 
> Notice that many texts discuss quasi-experiments and single-subject designs
> in the same context.  Even though many people would consider single-subject
> designs to be true experiments, they have many of the same flaws as
> quasi-experiments.  These flaws can be minimized by careful attention to
> control of extraneous variables, but that doesn't make them true experiments
> in Fisher's sense.
> 
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Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
Department of Psychology
University of San Diego 
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