And the other argument raised routinely as to "who cares if it is a
placebo" is that it denies the patient access to a treatment. Since ALL
treatments are going to have placebo effects, the argument goes, how can
it be in the best interest of the patients to provide belief alone (the
placebo) when you can provide treatment effects AND placebo. I don't
know Bob and have no reason to think ill of him but a lot of this
insistence on using unsubstantiated or unsupported methods is just
intellectual laziness and the general human condition. There are, of
course, exceptions but the only ones that I've seen reasonable defense
made for (treatments that have little evidence) are those associated
with established belief systems and cultural histories. I do believe
that any implication that therapists are "bad people" are equally
implausible, btw. The old saying about paving roads states that clearly
enough. :) One of my favorite quotes is the one about some of the
scientific community having faith in the scientific method that "Borders
on irrationality". I thought science WAS anti-rational ;)(I know what
they mean but I needed to inject a little humor this morning). Tim

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Timothy O. Shearon, PhD
Albertson College of Idaho
2112 Cleveland Blvd. 
Caldwell, ID 83605

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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:51 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
Subject: Re: Being Critical

Dr. Bob Wildblood wrote:

> Some might raise the placebo issue, but I'm also one of those who says

> that if all we get in therapy is a placebo effect, so long as the 
> individual's life is better for them, who cares? 

The people who have to pay for putatively "highly trained" personnel or 
for  expensive equipment for an effect that could be gotten with sugar 
pills or (in this case) very basic relaxation techniques (or even finger

tapping!).

Regards,
-- 
Christopher D. Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
M3J 1P3

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