To All,

I receive TiPS in digest form so I will respond to 2 messages at that same
time as
well as provide one admonishment.

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> TIPS Digest for Saturday, September 18, 2004.
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> 1. Re: International poll on US election
> 2. Re: stat question
> 3. Re: stat question
> 4. [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Representative Samples and the 2004 Vote]]
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> Subject: Re: International poll on US election
> From: "Christopher D. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:53:48 -0400
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To Prof. Green:

I don't know why but your messages are followed by a copy
in html.  Could you check to see if this can be turned off in
the interest of saving bandwidth and reducing message size?

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> Subject: Re: stat question
> From: "Stephen Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:56:04 -0500
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> On 17 Sep 2004, Martin J. Bourgeois wrote:
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> > I know that this is a little off-topic, but it could be
> > teaching-related for stat instructors. Does anyone know how to
> > test whether or not the difference between two ranges (in a
> > between-subjects design) is statistically significant? An editor
> > asked me to do this test, and I have never heard of such a test,
> > nor can I find one.

I've lost my copy of Dixon and Massey's "Introduction to Statistical
Analysis" (you library may well have a copy) but I do remember that
they provided a variety of "non-traditional" tests involving ranges.
However, I really must ask about the reasoning for why a comparison
of ranges was requested, because (a) as estimates of a population
variability (actually, variance -- if you assume that the sample was
drawn from a normal distribution which ranges from negative
infinity to positive infinity, the the range is not a population parameter,
rather it is an indicator of the popuplation's variance), the range is
extremely unstable and the sampling distribution of ranges will be
much wider than that of the same variance, and (b) the statistical
power for a test of differences between ranges (which I believe
would be a ratio of the larger range to the smaller range, like the
F test for testing equality of variances) is likely to be quite low
unless you have some ridiculuously large sample size (which
again raises the question as to why one would do such a test
instead of a direct test on variances).

If Dixon & Massey doesn't have the test, then I'd suggest asking
a local statistician on how one might perform a permutation test
on the ranges (comparable to a Fisher's exact test on a 2x2 table
but involving the ranges -- See Efron & Tibshirani's "An
Introduction to the Bootstrap", Chapter 16, for a general
introduction).

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> Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Representative Samples and the 2004 Vote]]
> From: "Christopher D. Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:48:11 -0400
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> Since I'm already in trouble for broaching "political" topics here (use
> your delete key now!), here is one which bears greatly on topics of fair
> statistical analysis of data (psychological or otherwise). What is
> George Gallup's political affiliation anyway? Read on...
> Christopher Green
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> Why You Should Ignore The Gallup Poll This Morning - And Maybe All Of
Theirs

[Snip article which ultimately points out that Gallups CEO is a GOP
contributor]

For those interested in such things, I'd suggest looking at the website
www.electoral-vote.com a website that attempts to describe and projects
the electoral college's vote (which actually determines who is become
the U.S. President).  The "Votemaster" provides access to a variety of
data as well as providing interesting IMHO daily commentary on how/why
the poll results are/might be what they are.

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