In my post Piaget & Dewey: Down for the Count? [Hake (2005a)] I wrote [bracketed by lines "HHHHHH. . . .":

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I argue that the criticism of Piaget by Catherine Scott in a recent AERA-D post is problematic, and close with three questions: (1) Does Kieran Egan (2004) ("Getting it Wrong from the Beginning: Our progressivist inheritance from Herbert Spencer, John Dewey, and Jean Piaget") or anyone else give any solid evidence for such criticism?; (2) Would anyone, care to comment on Kieran Egan's opinion that both Dewey and Piaget were:
(a) "wrong from the start," and
(b) heavily influenced by Herbert Spencer?";

(3) If Dewey was and is WRONG, why is Dewey-like pedagogy so seemingly successful in introductory physics education?
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Kieron Egan's provocative response to those questions is contained in a recent post on AERA-L "Piaget & Dewey: Down for the Count? - FORWARD from Kieran Egan," [Hake (2005b)] that can be accessed by clicking on <http://tinyurl.com/bsvfs>.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
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REFERENCES
Egan, K. 2004. "Getting it Wrong from the Beginning: Our progressivist inheritance from Herbert Spencer, John Dewey, and Jean Piaget." Yale University Press. For Egan's homepage presentation of the introduction and reviews see <http://www.educ.sfu.ca/kegan/wrongindex.html>. Peter Temes in the New York Times, Section 4A, Books, p.34, 10 Novemeber 2002 wrote: "Egan's forceful rejection of the progressive legacy is more about his sense of science than his politics. Spencer, Dewey and Piaget presented themselves as modern researchers with exciting new insights. Dr. Egan judges them without sympathy: he says their science was bad, and their continuing influence worse."

Hake, R.R. 2005a. "Piaget & Dewey: Down for the Count?"  online at
<http://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0509&L=pod&O=D&P=7030>. Post of 8 Sep 2005 17:33:4-0700 to AERA-D, AERA-G, AERA-GSL, AERA-H, AERA-I, AERA-J, AERA-K, AERA-L, AP-Physics, ASSESS, Biolab, Biopi-L, Chemed-L, Dewey-L, Dr-Ed, EvalTalk, Math-Learn, Phys-L, Physhare, PhysLrnR, POD, STLHE-L, TeachingEdPsych, and TIPS.

Hake, R.R. 2005b. "Piaget & Dewey: Down for the Count? - FORWARD from Kieran Egan," online at AERA-L post <http://lists.asu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0510&L=aera-l&T=0&O=D&X=17F82160E59C38410A&Y=rrhake%40earthlink.net&P=3457> or (for the convenience of those whose mail systems do not preserve hot-linking of long URL's across line breaks) <http://tinyurl.com/bsvfs> - courtesy <http://tinyurl.com/create.php>.

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