At 12:25 PM -0400 7/24/06, Christopher D. Green wrote:
Paul Brandon wrote:

At 11:45 AM -0400 7/24/06, Miguel Roig wrote:

There was an interesting Op Ed piece in the NY Times by Stanley Fish that I
thought would be of interest to the list:
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/23fish.html.


So far, sounds pretty reasonable.
However, the author (Stanley Fish) at times seems to be saying that you can _study_ any topic in your field of competence, but your rights to _talk_ about it are restricted.

Read the column.

I did.

It is not talking, per se, that is not convered by academic freedom (according to Fish), but rather *advocating.* Not all talk is advocacy. In Fish's opinion, apparently, *no* advocacy is "academic." One may bring forth any topic in the classroom "as objects of analysis rather than as candidates for allegiance."

Although I thnk this is an important distinction, I wonder how well it actually delineates the territory covered by academic freedom. Do not (some) biology professors "advocate" and "endorse" evolutionary theory? Would we of the rationalist/scientific "party" (which obviously does not cover everyone on this list) actually want some watchdog on the hunt for instances of illicit "evolutionary advocacy" in the classroom, with an aim to punishing "violators"?

This was my point.
His distinction sounds good until you apply it to specific situations.
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