Often, purebred white pigeons are used, but it's also cheap and easy to use 
feral pigeons (as captured in barns after dusk by Amish boys). Pigeons have 
excellent vision, but they do have two foveas in each eye (one is for 
identifying predators from above, such as owls or hawks) and they don't have 
frontal vision. Rats, on the other hand, have a very short life cycle 
(gestation of about 30 days), are pretty fertile, easy to raise, and it's easy 
to keep their strain pure. It's also easy to sex rats, not so easy with 
pigeons. Parakeets (budgies) conveniently and naturally have either a blue or 
pink band across the top of their beaks (nature nicely made it blue for boys, 
pink for girls), so it is easy to tell the males and females apart. Pigeons 
prefer to keep it among themselves.

I remember having to dust the pigeons for mites--put them in a paper bag with 
Sevin powder, shake it around a little, and hold my breath. It's no wonder I 
developed asthma.

Carol




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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Brandon [mailto:paul.bran...@mnsu.edu]
Sent: Tue 4/21/2009 3:12 PM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] info: pigeons or rats
 
The main reasons that Skinner switched from rats to pigeons were:
1.  Their visual system (in terms of acuity and color sensitivity) is  
much like humans.
2.  They were available for free on the window sill of his lab on the  
7th floor of the Pillsbury flour mill that he used during WWII.
He was working (with Army support) on a pigeon guided bomb, so  
pigeons were an ideal subject.  He and his students continued to work  
with them.
On the other hand, rats (and monkeys) are preferred for behavioral  
pharmacology work.

To answer your question as written:
Both species can be and are used to DEMONSTRATE operant conditioning  
principles.
Their use in experimental research depends on the experimental  
question being asked.

On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:53 PM, msylves...@copper.net wrote:

>
> Are pigeons preferred in demonstrating conditioning principles than  
> rats or vice versa?
>
> What are the pros and cons?

Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
paul.bran...@mnsu.edu


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