There are some good points in this article (although the irony of 
Stanford inveighing against elitism is pretty broad). When the author 
writes, however, that students today "have no time to hang out or delve 
into deep problems or reflect on what they are learning," I suspect that 
she has strung together disparate aspects of her own mental life and 
theirs.

I only wish the problems I ran into were overworking students. 
Admittedly, York is not "elite" by any measure. I am still surprised 
(well, maybe just saddened) that in my stats class every year, some do 
not know what an exponent is, most do not know what a factorial is, and 
nearly all are unable to do (or even follow?) the three lines of algebra 
I "perform" each year to convert a simple power formula into one that 
gives the number of subjects required (I am so used to NOT losing them 
with the phrase "solve for n" that I can hardly say it anymore). Perhaps 
they have been too busy learning the finer points of soccer and piano. 
If so, I am content with that trade-off. Perhaps too many of them have 
full-time jobs on the side. If so, then it is one of the few problems 
that can be easily solved by the application of money (and we should do 
that). I fear, however, that too many have been too busy learning Grand 
Theft Auto and Call of Duty.

Chris
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Mike Palij wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:31:53 -0800, Edward Pollak wrote:
>   
>> I wish I could send TIPS some of the blog entries written by a 
>> young cousin of mine who was teaching English in China at some 
>> private schools for the children of fairly wealthy families. The poor 
>> work ethic, sense of entitlement,  & lack of respect for authority 
>> that she described (for the majority of her students) was appalling 
>> even by modern American standards. Of course she also describes 
>> some outstanding students but these were a decided minority.  If you 
>> consider that only the cream of the Chinese crop get to come to 
>> the USA for study, the comparison made in the original article is 
>> not a fair one.
>>
>> I don't mean to defend the lack of work ethic in the bulk of our 
>> modern student body you can't compare what are likely elite Chinese 
>> students with run-of-the-mill American students. Another factor: the 
>> Chinese students are likely from the privileged classes and don't have 
>> to hold down part or full time jobs while studying here. Many of our 
>> students do.
>>     
>
> The issue of biased sampling in U.S. account of students should also
> be kept in mind.  Consider the following article which talks about
> U.S. students who are likely to be "elite" as well though the point of
> the article is that trying to be elite may take a significant toll; see:
>
> http://ed.stanford.edu/suse/faculty/displayFacultyNews.php?tablename=notify1&id=401
>
> In NYC, the financial and social elite often reckon the trajectory of
> their children's educational and social life course at an early age.
> This is what make stories about not getting one's child into the
> "right" pre-school program so hilarious and so sad.
>
> -Mike Palij
> New York University
> m...@nyu.edu
>
>
>   



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