Mark Sciutto writes: >I agree with several of the previous posts regarding the integration of stats and methods.In many ways, I think it is a more important question than the order of the two courses. I've had the opportunity to teach stats and methods independently as well as integrated. My conclusion is that the latter is far superior. I am often puzzled why more departments don't adopt this model. In fact, there are very few integrated books. At UWF, students take their stat course in the Math/Stat department. My experience here and at other schools (even at schools where stats are taught in both Psychology and Math/Stat) is that ownership of the stats course is a major turf battle. I taught statistics at other schools and would love to have a stats course in our department but I don't know how we could overcome the political battle with Math for the FTEs. It seems to me that an integrated course would raise similar problems. Any advice from people who have successfully reclaimed statistics as a course offered as a psychology course? Claudia ________________________________________________________ Claudia J. Stanny, Ph.D. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Psychology Phone: (850) 474 - 3163 University of West Florida FAX: (850) 857 - 6060 Pensacola, FL 32514 - 5751 Web: http://www.uwf.edu/psych/stanny.html