Interesting question. Speaking as a reformed "talkohoic," I'm not sure there is a time when collaborative, cooperative, team, or whatever the going term is out of line. I am lucky in that I can move chairs around, but that makes it easier. I'm not sure bolted chairs are really the obstacle people use as an excuse. What that saying about where there is a will, there is......? Normally when I am confronted with a student who doesn't "want to depend on anyone" for his or her grade, I tell that student to go out and find one professional, just one, who isn't dependent on someone else for his or her success. If one could be found, I would teach that student personally in any manner he or she wishes. Hasn't happened yet. I had a student challenge the triad arrangement of the class, and I asked her what her parents did for a living. Her father was a surgeon and her mother was an accountant. I told her to talk to them about not depending on others. She quietly came into the next class and joined her triad., You know, one of my childhood heroes is gone. The Lone Ranger, alias Clayton Moore, died recently at the age of 85. I used to stay glued to the radio and then the television listening and watching. I'd go to the Saturday movies to see the Masked Man do in the crooks. The William Tell Overture, his theme, was my first introduction to classical music. I used to run down to the corner newstand each Thursday to get the latest comic book. I ate Cheerios because I knew he did. I sent away for silver bullets, black masks, and goodness knows what. I wore costumes. When we played cowboys and indians, someone always wanted to sing out: "Hi-yo Silverrrrrrrr, Awayyyyyy" The lone hero, the single trail blazer is the idol in our American society. It's that individual thing. We place the goals of the individual ahead of the group. Community harmony is not a particular cardinal value. It's a socialist thing. If the truth be told, political and social philosophy not withstanding, even if you are accustomed to working alone in a competitive rather cooperative environment, you can learn the advantages of teamwork, of people skills, of communication skills. I have to do it myself and I can't do it alone. Need to support each other, to encourage each other, to help each other. You need to be willing to ask for help which is difficult for some intellectual macho types as well as some shy types. But, when people work together, they get that help. It wields a team. Three people cooperating on a project allows them to reach much higher than they expected they would ever be able to do. A close-knit team, drawing on particular strength, talents, abilities, skills, of each member. What one person lacks can be made up by another member; one person's talent and abilities is shared by all. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of History http://www.halcyon.com/arborhts/louis.html Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 /~\ /\ /\ 912-333-5947 /^\ / \ / /~\ \ /~\__/\ / \__/ \/ / /\ /~\/ \ /\/\-/ /^\_____\____________/__/_______/^\ -_~ / "If you want to climb mountains, \ /^\ _ _ / don't practice on mole hills" - \____