If you think the MMPI is a problem, then what about the MBTI, which is used 
even FAR more often. Pure Barnum effect.

Annette

Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D.
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>Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:02:06 -0500
>From: Beth Benoit <beth.ben...@gmail.com>  
>Subject: Re: [tips] Of Pups And Puzzles  
>To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" 
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>    
>
>   I know that, Bill.  (I've taught I/O.)  But I
>   think it says something about how far we
>   haven't come that people, especially business
>   executives and HR departments, still think the MMPI
>   is a valid tool to determine hiring and appropriate
>   placing of employees.  Frankly, I think some of the
>   methods in Pups and Puzzles were probably more
>   realistic.
>   Beth Benoit
>   Granite State College
>   Plymouth State University
>   New Hampshire
>
>   On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:57 PM, William Scott
>   <wsc...@wooster.edu> wrote:
>
>     The MMPI was developed after this film was
>     produced.
>
>     Bill Scott
>
>     >>> Beth Benoit <beth.ben...@gmail.com> 02/21/10
>     4:48 PM >>>
>     They're still using the MMPI, aren't they?  I'd
>     guess we haven't gotten very
>     far beyond Pups and Puzzles...
>
>     Beth Benoit
>     Granite State College
>     Plymouth State University
>     New Hampshire
>
>     On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Mike Palij
>     <m...@nyu.edu> wrote:
>
>     > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:01:33 -0800, Rick Froman
>     wrote:
>     > >It looks like Mike has identified the film
>     about Psychometricians that
>     > >I have described on this list before. My
>     favorite scene is the stress
>     > >test where the psychometrician shoots a gun
>     near the job candidate's
>     > >head. I hope some day to get this film to show
>     in my Psych Testing
>     > >class.
>     >
>     > That scene must have happened before I came in.
>      There were
>     > three candidates who were being given various
>     tests but I only
>     > saw the test where there was a pool of water
>     with a square in
>     > the middle and the testee was given two wooden
>     board to reach
>     > it but neither long enough to reach the square.
>      Only one figured
>     > out how to use them to form a diagonal to the
>     square.  Of course,
>     > that was the one that was put into management
>     while the other two
>     > were put into more menial positions.
>     >
>     > I hope we've come long since that type of
>     testing. :-)
>     >
>     > -Mike Palij
>     > New York University
>     > m...@nyu.edu
>     >
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