Linda et al.: Yes, Ted Millon's commentary in the 1975 Journal of Abnormal Psychology special issue devoted to the Rosenhan study makes the same point in terms of the balance of Type I and Type II errors in diagnosis. BTW, in conjunction with the originial Rosenhan article (which I view as a prime example of extremely compelling writing in conjunction with remarkably sloppy reasoning), this 1975 special issue makes for a terrific critical thinking exercise for advanced students. ....Scott ________________________________ From: Tollefsrud, Linda [linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:41 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Info: Movie and Rosenhahn
Fascinating, to be sure. But . . . what if we put other physicians in the same situation? For example, what if ER physicians had to decide who was really having a heart attack and who was merely faking? On a related (I think) note, I will never forget being told by a nurse that I was not really in labor and should just go home, only to give birth an hour later. Linda Tollefsrud Professor of Psychology University of Wisconsin - Barron County 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 (715) 234-8176 linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu From: Frantz, Sue [mailto:sfra...@highline.edu] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:04 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Info: Movie and Rosenhahn Higher than that. Forty-one with ‘high confidence’ plus others. >From “On Being Sane in Insane Places” – full article here: >http://psychrights.org/articles/rosenham.htm. ********************* “Psychiatric diagnoses, on the contrary, carry with them personal, legal, and social stigmas. It was therefore important to see whether the tendency toward diagnosing the sane insane could be reversed. The following experiment was arranged at a research and teaching hospital whose staff had heard these findings but doubted that such an error could occur in their hospital. The staff was informed that at some time during the following three months, one or more pseudopatients would attempt to be admitted into the psychiatric hospital. Each staff member was asked to rate each patient who presented himself at admissions or on the ward according to the likelihood that the patient was a pseudopatient. A 10-point scale was used, with a 1 and 2 reflecting high confidence that the patient was a pseudopatient. “Judgments were obtained on 193 patients who were admitted for psychiatric treatment. All staff who had had sustained contact with or primary responsibility for the patient – attendants, nurses, psychiatrists, physicians, and psychologists – were asked to make judgments. Forty-one patients were alleged, with high confidence, to be pseudopatients by at least one member of the staff. Twenty-three were considered suspect by at least one psychiatrist. Nineteen were suspected by one psychiatrist and one other staff member. Actually, no genuine pseudopatient (at least from my group) presented himself during this period.” -- Sue Frantz<http://flightline.highline.edu/sfrantz/> Highline Community College Psychology, Coordinator Des Moines, WA 206.878.3710 x3404 sfra...@highline.edu<mailto:sfra...@highline.edu> Office of Teaching Resources in Psychology, Associate Director Teaching of Psychology Idea Exchange (ToPIX) APA Division 2: Society for the Teaching of Psychology<http://teachpsych.org/otrp/syllabi/syllabi.php> APA's p...@cc Committee<http://www.apa.org/ed/pcue/ptatcchome.html> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu<mailto:linda.tollefs...@uwc.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791e9e&n=T&l=tips&o=1395 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-1395-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-1395-13355.5bffd68fb7c84ef12f478133e5791...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: slil...@emory.edu<mailto:slil...@emory.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9b2f&n=T&l=tips&o=1415 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-1415-13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-1415-13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=1416 or send a blank email to leave-1416-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu