I would also maintain that at least some core assumptions of ID theory, like the assertion that some biological systems (e.g., the hemoglobin molecule, the bacterial flagellum) are "irreducibly complex," are in principle, if not in practice, falsifiable. So, intended or not, many or most ID theorists have ventured into the domain of the scientifically testable, as Jim Clark observes. Moreover, many ID theorists have staked their claim to scientific status by arguing that their theory should be taught alongside of natural selection in science classes.
..Scott Scott O. Lilienfeld, Ph.D. Professor Editor, Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice Department of Psychology, Room 473 Psychology and Interdisciplinary Sciences (PAIS) Emory University 36 Eagle Row Atlanta, Georgia 30322 slil...@emory.edu (404) 727-1125 Psychology Today Blog: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-skeptical-psychologist 50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology: http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-140513111X.html Scientific American Mind: Facts and Fictions in Mental Health Column: http://www.scientificamerican.com/sciammind/ The Master in the Art of Living makes little distinction between his work and his play, his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his recreation, his love and his intellectual passions. He hardly knows which is which. He simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does, leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing. To him - he is always doing both. - Zen Buddhist text (slightly modified) -----Original Message----- From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:42 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Unintelligent design and theodicy Hi Moreover, is intelligent design a "theological" claim? I thought the whole purpose of ID was to make a non-theological case for a designer? Doesn't that put it in the purview of science, rather than religion? I suspect that the number of purely theological claims made in the name of religion approaches 0 (i.e., claims with NO empirical / scientific / logical / linguistic implications). Although we try to avoid the topic of religion here and in other academic contexts, I think it is inevitable that the subject is going to arise more and more. I have a slide I use in my culture and psychology class (I'm the real cross-cultural dude on TIPs) from a Pew foundation survey showing just how important religion is in the lives of people around the world. Although we tend toward the secular in the west (USA being a notable exception), there are many parts of the world were over 90% of the population indicates that religion is very important to them (much higher even than the 69% in USA ... vs about 30% in Canada and about 11% in France and other secular nations). Difficult to talk fully about cultural aspects of psychology without considering the importance of religion (its nature, predictors of belief, consequences and other correlates), although lots of texts tend to give it short shrift. Is one issue that will inevitably arise the question of the foundations for people's religious beliefs? And how should we address such issues in the classroom? Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca >>> Paul Brandon <paul.bran...@mnsu.edu> 04-May-10 1:00:26 PM >>> Because they might embarrass someone? On May 4, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > ..another good example of why science writers shouldn't comment on > theology > > --Mike > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:38 AM, <sbl...@ubishops.ca> wrote: >> What a shoddy piece of work is man. >> >> http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100503/full/news.2010.215.ht >> ml or http://tinyurl.com/shoddy-man Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato paul.bran...@mnsu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a891720c9&n=T&l=tips&o=2443 or send a blank email to leave-2443-13251.645f86b5cec4da0a56ffea7a89172...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: slil...@emory.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9b2f&n=T&l=tips&o=2444 or send a blank email to leave-2444-13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=2446 or send a blank email to leave-2446-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
