Stephen Black writes: >…if two men kiss on the lips, does that make them gay? >The times they are a-changing, it seems. >http://tinyurl.com/4z4gfxr
Seems is the operative word here. :-) There are so many things wrong with that article that I don't know where to begin. Let's start here: >It began on the professional soccer field, where >players often share exuberate [sic] kisses after goals. This is not reported speech, but seems to come from the researcher, one Eric Anderson of Bath University. Interestingly, the links to "exuberate" and "kisses" both show a boy-girl kiss. If it's so prevalent, they might at least have linked to examples. Anderson seems to have an academic vested interest (see below) in saying this kind of thing, but it is not an accurate description of what generally happens when a goal is scored in professional soccer in Britain. The scorer's antics and other colleagues' celebrations have become absurd, players typically jumping on the scorer who goes to ground. Occasionally a player may rush up to the scorer and kiss the top of his head as he grabs hold of him, but that is the exception, not the rule. To say "exuberant kisses" often occur is just plain nonsense. Then there is the very small sample (145) in the study, one I'd like to see details of before I took it seriously. Then there is the scope of the "study": "It's not yet known how the trend of men kissing extends to non-University segments of the British population." You bet! As I said, Anderson has an intellectual vested interest in making a story out of his "study". A sample of his research: http://opus.bath.ac.uk/21316/ "In this study, we draw on findings from one year of participant observation and 12 in-depth interviews with men in a highly-ranked English university rugby team in order to nuance theoretical understandings concerning the re-production of homosexually-themed discourse in organised sport. We use ethnographic data to theorise the complex relationship between language, homosocial masculine relationships and organised sport. In examining the political, intentional and inadvertent effects of these men's discourses, we define and discuss the notion of gay discourse as a form of heteronormativity that is dissimilar to the traditional use of homophobic discourse. Highlighting that homosexually-themed discourse is best understood as a continuum, we stress the importance of context in interpreting the meaning and explicating the effects of this kind of discourse." Yawn. :-) Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org ------------------------------------------- From: sbl...@ubishops.ca Subject: You can't handle the smooch! (Was: Norwegian wood) Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:12:10 -0500 On 1 Mar 2011 at 5:28, michael sylvester wrote: > Is someone gay if this person never engages in seual penetration of > the same sObviously males can engage in many activities with one > another (bonding) but we do not refer to this as sexual behavior. In > some cultures boys write love letters to one aother,does that make > them gay? In answer to the declaration in my header, perhaps you can. Or to answer a question with a question, if two men kiss on the lips, does that make them gay? The times they are a-changing, it seems. http://tinyurl.com/4z4gfxr Stephen -------------------------------------------- Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca --------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=9117 or send a blank email to leave-9117-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
