Hmmmm. Did faculty really go to school for umpteen years in order to be a recruiter?
Would administration expect a distinguished Harvard law professor to be calling students and recruiting? Perhaps we are not all distinguished Harvard law professors, but does that mean we should be given less respect? --Mike On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Helweg-Larsen, Marie <helw...@dickinson.edu> wrote: > > > Service obligations are always a slippery slope. The administration would > like you (us) to do more and faculty would (generally in my experience) like > to do less. I think that is a generally tension that can be handled (better > or worse) by asking for volunteers, spreading the work across departments > and faculty within the departments, giving some of it to the chair (e.g., > answering questions about the program, meeting with students), and paying > people (our faculty who advice students over the summer are faculty who are > paid and who volunteered). > > > > I think the anonymous poster was asking whether there was something > fundamentally wrong or different about this type of service (as opposed to > all the millions of others small and big service activities faculty do). > > > > Marie > > > > **************************************************** > Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Psychology > Danish Institute for Study Abroad (DIS), +45 2065 1360 > > Dickinson College (on leave 2010/2011) > http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html > **************************************************** > > > > From: FLINT, ROBERT [mailto:fli...@mail.strose.edu] > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:16 > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE: [tips] Anonymous Post > > > > > > > > It is a slippery slope! We have been asked/required to participate in an > increasingly growing number of such events over the years. While I agree > that some recruitment-/conversion-/retention-related activity is ok, we are > now asked to cover approximately 7 3-hr accepted student/transfer advising > days over the summer during which we are not under contract, plus another 6 > or so prospective student and early acceptance events during the normal > fall/spring academic year. > > > > Rob Flint > > ------------------------------------- > > Robert W. Flint, Jr., Ph.D. > > Professor of Psychology > > The College of Saint Rose > > Albany, NY 12203-1490 > > 518-458-5379 > > fli...@strose.edu > > > > From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [mailto:helw...@dickinson.edu] > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 4:04 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE: [tips] Anonymous Post > > > > > > > > I don’t think there is anything fundamentally wrong with having faculty help > with recruitment. Faculty already help with recruitment in other ways (at > least I do) such as by hosting prospective students in their classes, > meeting with them, answering questions from them about the psychology > program, etc. I’ve also given talks to visiting families (with my students > about faculty-student research). A lot of colleges “sell” close > faculty-student contact as one of their primary assets so getting a call or > an email from a faculty member congratulating them on getting accepted is a > way to reinforce that. It is also (I suspect) more meaningful to correspond > with a specific faculty member instead of a staff person in admissions (at > least about psychology related issues). Does it actually help? – I have no > idea. I think the admissions people figure that personal contact is likely > to make students feel welcome. > > > > Of course it should be voluntary (at a place I used to work, one faculty > member said that she was pretty sure that her call discouraged students from > attending because she was so awkward on the phone). > > > > Marie > > > > **************************************************** > Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Psychology > Danish Institute for Study Abroad (DIS), +45 2065 1360 > > Dickinson College (on leave 2010/2011) > http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html > **************************************************** > > > > From: Annette Taylor [mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu] > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 22:24 > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE: [tips] Anonymous Post > > > > > > > > Oh, it was not my post! But that's OK. It is someone else on tips who wanted > to remain anonymous. I just want to clarify that this is NOT happening at my > institution. Just for the record! > > > > I didn't realize that if I left off my sig line that it would still be > linked to me, LOL. I posted this as a courtesy to another tipster. > > > > Annette > > > > Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. > > Professor, Psychological Sciences > > University of San Diego > > 5998 Alcala Park > > San Diego, CA 92110 > > tay...@sandiego.edu > > ________________________________ > > From: don allen [dap...@shaw.ca] > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 12:26 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: Re: [tips] Anonymous Post > > > > Hi Annette- > > > > I don't know whether there are data which show that these types of faculty > contacts boost (or hinder) recruitment. That said, I always resisted > management's attempts to get faculty to "market" their "product". I have no > training in sales and marketing and I don't think that it should be part of > the job description (unless, of course, you are teaching sales & marketing). > I think that efforts like these reflect two things: A panic mentality in > administrators and a desire for free labour. If management really thinks > that this is a productive way to increase enrollment then they should hire > professionals to do the job. > > > > -Don. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Annette Taylor <tay...@sandiego.edu> > Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011 12:09 pm > Subject: [tips] Anonymous Post > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > >> Anonymous post >> Our institution is experiencing a decline in enrollment and as a >> way to reverse this trend the administration is asking faculty >> members to call prospective students. They provide the faculty >> with a short friendly script, which in no way directly >> encourages the student to enroll. It simply asks the student >> whether s/he has questions and to feel free to contact the >> faculty member or institution if questions about the school or >> program arise. >> Some faculty members endorse the effort while others see it as a >> ill-conceived strategy that might not only be counterproductive, >> but that also demeans the profession. >> What are your thoughts on this type of strategy? Is there >> evidence that phone calls by faculty members to prospective >> students increase the number of applicants who end up enrolling >> in an institution? >> Any thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to tips as: dap...@shaw.ca. >> To unsubscribe click here: >> >> http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13157.966b795bc7f3ccb35e3da08aebe98f18&n=T&l=tips&o=9508or >> send a blank email to >> leave-9508-13157.966b795bc7f3ccb35e3da08aebe98...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > Don Allen > Retired professor > Langara College > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edu. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0&n=T&l=tips&o=9510 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-9510-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: helw...@dickinson.edu. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a4468797f&n=T&l=tips&o=9512 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-9512-13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a44687...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: fli...@mail.strose.edu. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=130718.621a33518e2ff34bdfc40993e2334d79&n=T&l=tips&o=9522 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-9522-130718.621a33518e2ff34bdfc40993e2334...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: helw...@dickinson.edu. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a4468797f&n=T&l=tips&o=9523 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-9523-13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a44687...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: tipsl...@gmail.com. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13541.42a7e8017ab9578358f118300f4720fb&n=T&l=tips&o=9524 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-9524-13541.42a7e8017ab9578358f118300f472...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- -- Mike For Sale: Baby Shoes, Never Worn. 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