Annette et al.: >From what I know of its history, the Columbia clinical psychology program has >always been something of an anomaly. It's not in the psychology department (a >rarity for clinical psychology programs, although not for counseling >psychology programs), and has little or no formal affiliation with it >(although there is certainly some collaboration here and there). >Traditionally, the program has been very psychodynamic and not especially >research-oriented. The contrast with the Columbia psychology department has >been strark.
In relatively recent years, however, the Columbia clinical program has racheted up its standards considerably and made some excellent hires, including my friend George Bonanno, and several other outstanding clinical scientists who value evidence-based practice and research. I gave a talk there several years ago, and was under the impression that the program was still struggling a bit with its identity, but that it was gradually moving more to a clinical scientist or at least a scientist-practitioner model of training. So I was surprised and disheartened by this news story, which seems to imply a major step backwards. I'm certainly not opposed to rigorous research on the efficacy of meditation or mindfulness in psychotherapy. But the comments of several of the participants imply a disconcerting elevation of clinical intuition as equal to controlled research as a source of evidence. Very troubling. I don't know more about this new emphasis within the clinical program, but it does make me wonder just how committed the program is to a scientific approach to clinical practice. ...Scott ________________________________________ From: Annette Taylor [tay...@sandiego.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:38 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re:[tips] Another step forward / backward for Clinical Psychology Training? This quote makes it one step backwards: “If you tell me you know something in your gut, I say that’s hard data,” said Dr. Miller, I call on clinical folks to inform me whether the Columbia program is generally well-respected. What I wonder is this, if it is well-respected then what does this say about the state of clinical training? Sigh. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Another step forward / backward for Clinical Psychology Training? From: "Jim Clark" <j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:06:45 -0500 X-Message-Number: 1 Hi A NY Times article on Columbia's clinical psychology program and its addition of spirituality (mysticism?) to training. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/education/columbia-program-merges-therapy-and-spirituality.html?pagewanted=1&src=recg I especially noted the following for several points: --------------------------------------------- Lisa J. Miller, the professor who leads the concentration, said she was training *spiritual psychologists,* who put nonmaterial concepts like love and connection at the core of their efforts to heal. *If you tell me you know something in your gut, I say that*s hard data,* said Dr. Miller, who co-hosted a cable television series on psychic children in 2008. Science, like intuition, she said, is *another arrow in our quiver.* --------------------------------------------- One is emphasis on intuition as "hard data" and the other is the link in this person's background to "psychic children." And what sort of psychologist thinks that "love and connection" are elements that have been ignored by either academic or clinical psychologists, necessitating the introduction of mysticism to take into account such "nonmaterial concepts"? Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology and Chair 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: slil...@emory.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9b2f&n=T&l=tips&o=19654 or send a blank email to leave-19654-13509.d0999cebc8f4ed4eb54d5317367e9...@fsulist.frostburg.edu ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=19662 or send a blank email to leave-19662-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
