Mike-- As I've heard it (confirmed by experience ;-) it's two Jews and three opinions. In fact, sometimes I can manage three opinions all by myself ;-)
On Sep 4, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Mike Palij wrote: > Paul, > > Back in the 1990s I was on the full-time faculty of Yeshiva University > for five years and taught in both the men's undergraduate college > (Yeshiva College) and the women's undergraduate college (Stern > College). During one of the experimental psychology lecture classes > we were discussing the implications of a memory experiment we > had just conducted (I believe it was the Brown-Peterson distractor > task) and a couple of the men started having a heated discussion > about the interpretation. I said calm down and let's discuss this > systematically. One of the students replied to me: > > "Hey Professor, you know what they say: get three Jews together, > get five different opinions." > > So, I am not surprised that there are differing views about things > including the 613 Mizvot. ;-) > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu > > > On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:49:58 -0700, Paul Brandon wrote: > Mike: > > You are right that a Rabbi would be referring to the 613 Mizvot compiled by > Maimonides. > The Christian 10 are often broken down into 13 or so; the Christian first > becoming > 1. To know there is a G-d--Exodus 20:2 > 2. Not to entertain thoughts of other gods besides Him--Exodus 20:3 > > 3. To know that He is one--Deuteronomy 6:4 > > 4. To love Him--Deuteronomy 6:5 > > 5. To fear Him--Deuteronomy 10:20 > > And of course all 613 cannot be obeyed at present because some refer to the > Temple in Jerusalem. > So few Rabbis (even among the Orthodox few) today would say that one must > rigidly obey all 613. However saying that one must obey the Mizvot would > refer > to the body of 613; not to the first few. > > The context of my original comment: > We live about 85 miles from the nearest synagogue. > On weekends we drove the kids up for Sunday school. > I was discussing with the Rabbi what to do in bad winter weather > (we have some in Minnesota, the Land of the Frozen Chosen); > His comment was that the Torah says that we should -live- by these > commandments, so safety first. Studying Torah is important, but not to the > point of risking one's life. > > As for 358 below, I found a slightly more coherent translation: > "The rapist must marry his victim if she is unwed - Deut. 22:29" > There is no universal numbering system, but Deut. 22:29 is always the same > (although translations vary), but 358 can be all sorts of things. > > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Mike Palij wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 10:11:40 -0700, Paul Brandon wrote: >> >>> As my favorite Rabbi said: >>> The Torah says 'Thou shalt -live- by these commandments'. >>> When in doubt, do what is necessary to go on living. >> >> Which commandments are you referring to? The 10 that >> Christians know or the 613 Commandments? For the >> latter, see: >> http://bethaderech.com/list-of-the-613-commandments/ >> >> My favorite one is the following which seems to have been forgotten >> by many: >> 235 Not lending to another person at interest. Vayikra (Leviticus) 25:37 >> >> Then again, there are others that are observed: >> 326 Not to work on Rosh HaShannah (Head of Year). Vayikra (Leviticus) >> 23:25 >> >> And then there are just some head scratchers: >> 358 Divorce not wife, that he has to marry after raping her. Devarim >> (Deuteronomy) 22:29 >> >> So many rules, so little time. Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato pkbra...@hickorytech.net --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=27559 or send a blank email to leave-27559-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
