That you were able to share your contribution with us without anyone deciding 
whether it was appropriate or not is one of the reasons I like TIPS so much and 
why I wouldn't join that other list. Admittedly, I sometimes cringe at some of 
the stuff that gets posted here (you all know what I mean), but I rather put up 
with that noise than miss a valuable signal, such as your post. Thank you for 
your contribution, Chris, I, too, was not aware that the term physiological was 
the 19th century equivalent of today's neuro-----.

Miguel



---- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Green" <[email protected]>
To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Victor Benassi" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:56:05 AM
Subject: [tips] Fwd: [PSYCHTEACHER] Changing Dept. name from Psychology to 
Psychological Science

Yesterday, someone on PsychTeacher asked a question about changing the name of 
his dept from "Psychology" to "Psychological Sciences." I was reminded of the 
old adage, "Any discipline that needs 'science' in its name isn't one," and I 
said so. A number of people responded, some on the list, some through back 
channel. Last night, I offered this explanation (below), but the PsychTeacher 
gate keepers thought it was argumentative and insulting (their words) and 
refused it. I had thought it was the opposite of that, but chacun à son goût. 

I repost it here, for those of you who are on that other list, and wondered 
whether I was serious. 

Chris
.......
Christopher D Green
Department of Psychology
York University
Toronto, ON M6C 1G4

[email protected]
http://www.yorku.ca/christo

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Christopher Green <[email protected]>
> Date: January 28, 2014 at 12:32:07 AM EST
> To: Society for Teaching of Psychology PsychTeacher 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Fwd: [PSYCHTEACHER] Changing Dept. name from Psychology to 
> Psychological Science
> 
> Earlier today I wrote:
> 
>> 
>> All I can think of is the old saying, "Any discipline that needs 'science' 
>> in its name, isn't one."
> 
> There has been a bit more blowback than I expected. Note, I didn't say it was 
> an immutable truth, only that I was reminded of it. When I first heard the 
> expression, I was doing graduate "cognitive science," and reflexively thought 
> "They can't mean us!" Then one day I saw a poster for a graduate program in 
> "pastoral science," and I laughed and laughed. Just the way those in biology 
> laughed at me, and those in chemistry laughed at those in the "biological 
> sciences," and so forth.
> 
> Things don't have to be literally true to make one productively reflect on 
> one's claims and, perhaps more important, on the academic insecurities that 
> make one react defensively to a harmless joke. I understand why a 
> "laboratory" department wouldn't want to be confused with a "clinical" 
> department, but I also know a bit of the history of the field, and that 
> knowledge makes me sometimes giggle at our modern turf battles. Wundt didn't 
> call his psychology "physiological" because he thought he was doing 
> physiology. He called it that in order to borrow for his new approach to 
> psychology the aura of successes that "modern" German experimental physiology 
> had achieved in the pervious few decades (while simultaneously borrowing 
> their lab equipment). "Physiology" was the fashionable academic word of the 
> age. There were "physiological" ethics and "physiological" aesthetics at the 
> time too, so-named for the same reason. It was marketing, pure and simple. 
> And it worked. Wundt and his lab were so successful in placing graduates in 
> philosophy chairs around Germany that the traditional philosophers were 
> driven to present a petition to the Minister of Education to have it stopped. 
> The German government responded by creating separate Psychology departments. 
> 
> It is the same with our lobbying for the word "science" to be included in the 
> names of our departments. Both true and necessary as well as petty and 
> casuistic, all at the same time.
> 
> Such is life.
> 
> Chris
> .......
> Christopher D Green
> Department of Psychology
> York University
> Toronto, ON M6C 1G4
> 
> [email protected]
> http://www.yorku.ca/christo
> 

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