And it is good to remember that we are just dealing with words, and they do not always sync with what's going on inside. Some people put up a good front with words to counteract despair. And there are individual as well as cultural differences. Ask a typical American how they are today and they say Good thank you How are you? Blah. I hear this every day at my local market. Ask a typical russian - whatever that is :-) and you will get an honest disclosure of aches and pains. For them, life is awful, terrible, who can stand it? And it's way too short.
========================== John W. Kulig, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Coordinator, Psychology Honors Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ========================== From: "José Ferreira Alves" <al...@psi.uminho.pt> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 12:17:10 AM Subject: Res: [tips] Oliver Sacks Beyond this and respecting whether Nick Nolte narrative reveals integrity or despair, it is obvious that both are present. In the first quote that Beth brought to us I think we could see mostly despair. Within the full interview we could observe both. Integrity and despair are the extremities of a continuum and then it is very difficult observe just one of these extremes. What is important to point out is that both Oliver Sacks and Nick Nolte are living the integrity vs despair crisis. But this discussion although important to me it is much less important than the feelings of loss I live when I read the interviews particularly that of Oliver Sacks. José ————————————————————— Em 20 de fevereiro de 2015, à(s) 01:51, Beth Benoit <beth.ben...@gmail.com> escreveu: Nick Nolte was born in 1941 and he remembers the food scarcity of WWII? He would have been four years old when it ended. And he shoveled coal into the furnace at night to keep the house warm? At four years old?? I have a granddaughter who is four, and trust me, she isn't going to remember specifics of lard distribution and would never be capable of shoveling coal into a furnace. Maybe we have a different issue going on now. Memory? Time to check in with Elizabeth Loftus. Beth Benoit Plymouth State University Plymouth NH On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Joan Warmbold < jwarm...@oakton.edu > wrote: > I also read the entire interview given by Nolte and I didn't see evidence > of despair or lack of ego integrity either. Yes, he openly discusses the > difficulties that have come his way as he ages, such as those infernal > aches and pains, losing friends to illnesses and coming to terms with a > less close relationship with his son who now has his own family. But are > not those the realities most people face as they age? On the other hand, > his anecdote about attending his 50th HS reunion was sweetly amusing and > upbeat. As he said, at first you don't recognize anyone but the > connections are still there and, naturally, he discovers he still was in > love with his HS sweetheart. > I feel Nick Nolte is remarkably authentic for a "Hollywood" actor. We > simply aren't accustomed to hearing a man express himself with such > candor; i.e. he can cry everyday and he can laugh everyday. To me, this > is someone who is sharing with amazing frankness how he is in touch with > the sadness as well as the goodness of life on a daily basis. That's not > despair but a honest expression of an emotional reality. And he certainly > is still deeply engaged in what life has to offer. Have many of us will be > starring in a film along side Robert Redford when in our 70's? Just BTW, I > would highly recommend a small jewel of a film Nolte starred in titled > "Off the Black:" > "Off the Black" is a coming-of-age story of teenager Dave Tibbel (Morgan) > who copes with his own distant father (Timothy Hutton) by forming an > unlikely friendship with a disheveled, irascible high school umpire, Ray > Cooke (Nolte). As they grow more dependent on each other, Ray asks Dave to > go to his 40th high school reunion and pretend to be his son, a benevolent > act of deception that winds up opening unexpected dimensions in the two > men. > Read more: http://www.aceshowbiz.com/movie/off_the_black/#ixzz3SF0szUyh > Joan > jwarm...@oakton.edu > > Now that I’ve had the time to read the entire article, I wouldn’t > > agree that Nolte lacks ego integrity. The article ends with this quote: > > You learn acceptance and humility. You learn how to find happiness on your > > own terms. Just because I cry every day, doesn't mean I don't laugh every > > day, too. > > Linda Tollefsrud > > UW Colleges > > Rice Lake, WI > > From: Beth Benoit [mailto: beth.ben...@gmail.com ] > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:31 PM > > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > > Subject: Re: [tips] Oliver Sacks > > José Ferreira-Alves sent a link to the original interview with Nick Nolte > > in GQ. > > http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2015/01/nick-nolte-interview.html?mbid=social_retweet > > Beth Benoit > > Plymouth State University > > Plymouth NH > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:56 AM, José Ferreira Alves > > < al...@psi.uminho.pt <mailto: al...@psi.uminho.pt >> wrote: > > I agree fully with your interpretation, Beth. > > I think your quote of Nick Nolte as well all the paper of Sacks are > > fabulous to teach Erikson Integrity vs despair elements > > Best wishes > > jose > > ___________________________ > > José Ferreira-Alves, PhD > > Assistant Professor > > School of Psychology > > University of Minho > > Campus de Gualtar > > 4710-057 Braga > > Portugal > > Tel.cel. +351919378514 <tel:%2B351919378514> > > Tel. office: 253604233 > > Email: al...@psi.uminho.pt <mailto: al...@psi.uminho.pt > > > http://escola.psi.uminho.pt/docentes_investigadores/falves.html > > http://orcid.org/0000-0003-1967-0074 > > Skype name: feralves6180 > > De: Beth Benoit > > [mailto: beth.ben...@gmail.com <mailto: beth.ben...@gmail.com >] > > Enviada: 19 de fevereiro de 2015 14:49 > > Para: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > > Assunto: Re: [tips] Oliver Sacks > > Oliver Sacks continues to inspire and present a brave and beautiful > > attitude toward life. Interesting contrast in this week's The Week, > > quoting from a boohooing GQ interview with Nick Nolte: > > "Nick Nolte has found getting old to be a painful experience, said Davy > > Rothbart in GQ. "I cry every day," says the actor, 74. "It's nothing > > tragic or anything - it's just life. I cry when I try to get out of bed, > > because I'm in my 70s and my body hurts like hell. Once my joints are > > moving, I'm all right, but those are my first tears in the morning." > > Nolte's acute sense of mortality is reinforced every time an old friend > > dies. "That'll always bring on a good cry..." But Nolte says that > > perhaps the most painful consequence of growing old is seeing your > > children become involved in their own lives and slowly drift away. "My > > son is 28. We've had a close relationship all my life, but now that he's > > gotten married and had his own family, he's much more secretive. He'll > > say, 'That's none of your business, Dad. Leave me alone.' And that's a > > sad one - letting go of your children...." > > After reading the above I concluded that Sacks is a good example of ego > > integrity in Erikson's final psychosocial stage, while Nolte might be a > > pretty good example of the failure of it: despair. > > Beth Benoit > > Plymouth State University > > Plymouth NH > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Lilienfeld, Scott O > > < slil...@emory.edu <mailto: slil...@emory.edu >> wrote: > > Sad news about Oliver Sacks; I had not known this. > > http://mindhacks.com/2015/02/19/oliver-sacks-now-i-am-face-to-face-with-dying/ > > ……Scott > > Scott O. 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