Hi

I’m not sure this explains things like the effect of prior stimuli on 
perception of ambiguous figures like the rat-man, which is differently 
interpreted depending on prior sequence of animals or faces.

Jim
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From: Michael Scoles [mailto:micha...@uca.edu]
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My first guess wasn't that good.  On pages 246-249 of "The senses considered as 
perceptual systems,"  Gibson discusses reversible figure ground and impossible 
(Escher-type) figures.  His explanation is that the same stimulus can provide 
equivocal information.  In natural settings, children and adults learn which 
sources of information should be attended to.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Michael Scoles 
<micha...@uca.edu<mailto:micha...@uca.edu>> wrote:

My first guess is that the observer normally moves.
On Feb 8, 2016 6:39 PM, "Michael Scoles" 
<micha...@uca.edu<mailto:micha...@uca.edu>> wrote:



He has a chapter on it.  Not sure which book, but it is in my office.  I'll try 
to remember to look it up in the morning.
On Feb 8, 2016 4:59 PM, "Jim Clark" 
<j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca<mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca>> wrote:


And how would Gibson explain ambiguous stimuli where the identical input gives 
rise to different interpretations?

Jim
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On Feb 8, 2016, at 3:51 PM, "Michael Scoles" 
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Gibson would argue that, unless by "past experience" you mean biological 
evolution in environments that structure energy, the necessary information for 
perception is readily available from that structure (e.g., texture gradients, 
kinetic optical occlusion).

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Stuart McKelvie 
<smcke...@ubishops.ca<mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca>> wrote:
Dear Tipsters,

I like D. O. Hebb's distinction between sensation and perception as a way of 
distinguishing bottom-up and top-down processing.

Hebb defines sensation as activity in the sense organ and corresponding sensory 
receiving areas of the brain. You can easily illustrate this with a diagram, 
say for the visual system.

Perception is then what occurs when this information is sent on to other parts 
of the brain and interpreted in the light of context and past experience 
(top-down processing).

Sincerely,

Stuart

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Subject: [tips] bottom up processing in humans

I am having a bit of a hard time this year answering questions about bottom up 
processing.

Student question: How can it be truly bottom up if it requires a comparison to 
a stored image? Isn't that like top-down? You use the stored image to recognize 
what it is that is coming in. How are these actually different?

I did have a response but I want to withhold it from here so not to bias 
responses from the list.

Student question: Is there any real life example of people using template 
models of pattern recognition? If not, why did they even get developed as 
models of human pattern recognition?

My answer here was really lame, IMHO so I am looking for a better one but as 
above, don't want to bias responses.

Maybe I'm particular brain dead that these two stumped me.

Annette


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