Seems that a lot here hinges on what the word "know" means. Does the response 
of an object to any treatment warrant the label? Or does "know" imply something 
else, like awareness. Even "they fight back" seems like a provocative and 
perhaps unjustified wording, although not as egregious as "know." Does an 
organism or object reacting imply "fighting back?" If I throw a rock up in the 
air, is it "fighting back" against gravity when it falls to the ground? Silly 
example, but does illustrate that "fighting back" does not apply to all 
reactions of objects. Question is whether the reactions of plants to being 
eaten are more akin to the rock or to some animate object that can "fight back" 
and perhaps "know."

Jim

Jim Clark
Professor & Chair of Psychology
University of Winnipeg
204-786-9757
Room 4L41A (4th Floor Lockhart)
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From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
Sent: October-30-16 6:55 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: [tips] Hey Vegans! When Plants Communicate, Do You Listen?



Plants apparently respond to "attacks" on them, such as eating them.
For a couple of examples. see:
http://daily.jstor.org/plants-know-when-they-are-being-eaten-and-they-fight-back/

There is an old story in Zen Buddhism about all living things having
Buddha nature and it is a sin to kill and eat, say, animals, because
of this.  But one day a novice asked a master about plants and
whether they had Buddha nature.  The mater responded "All
living things have Buddha nature".

The responded "So when we eats plant, they scream as we
eat them?'

The master responded "Yes, but they do so very quietly."

In contrast, on the Zombie series "The Walking Dead" Carl
makes the astute observation:

"Everything is food for something else."

Yes, indeed.

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu>




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