On 2 December 2016 at 09:22, Yoav Nir <ynir.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2 Dec 2016, at 10:33, Peter Gutmann <pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote: >> >> Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> writes: >> >>> IIRC that was sort-of a condition for adoption of the work in the IETF 20 >>> years ago, when there were two different protocols already being deployed >>> and >>> the proponents of one of them said "we'll use that other one (SSL) but you >>> gotta change the name of the standard or we can't get our <bosses> to agree >>> to change to all use the same thing." >> >> It was Netscape with SSL vs. Microsoft with PCT. >> >> If no-one from Microsoft has any objections, can we just rename it back to >> what it's always been for everyone but us, SSL? > > Is that even possible? The way I’ve heard it “SSL” is a registered trademark > owned by Netscape (now AOL), so we can’t use it unless AOL lawyers sign off > on that. It might be wrong, but if it’s true - good luck with that.
It does not appear on this list of AOL trademarks: http://legal.aol.com/trademarks/ Searching here does not turn up any relevant *registered* trademarks: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4803%3Aaagjih.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=SSL&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query It does not appear to be a current trademark if it ever was one. IANAL but IIUC a trademark is only valid for as long as it is in use and defended. Matt _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
