On 11/07/2017 01:20 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
> 
> ➢     Our work was motivated by the discussions in the IoT groups about
>     re-inventing the TLS handshake at the application layer.
>     
>  Isn’t that what QUIC does (to a good enough approximation)?
> 

I see QUIC more as a new transport layer.

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