On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 12:09 AM Bret Jordan <jordan.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now this WG is finally starting to talk about a solution to a real problem
> and need.  We can either address the use case and need here in the IETF, or
> we can let the solutions be done else where. I would personally prefer we
> take this work item back and solve it here in the IETF.
> [...]
>
> On Dec 5, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Tony Arcieri <basc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> It seems like with an out-of-band escrow agent, the traffic secrets could
> be escrowed with no changes to TLS.
>
> Note that the solution I was proposing here requires no changes to TLS. I
am sure that there are many in the IETF who would be happy with people
exploring solutions which don't require changes to TLS.

Here are some others:

   - Endpoint agents (OSS - commercial options are also available):
   - https://osquery.io/
      - https://www.bro.org/ (now Zeek)
      - https://wazuh.com/
      - Encrypted traffic analytics:
   
https://blogs.cisco.com/security/tls-version-1-3-change-is-here-and-encrypted-traffic-analytics-has-got-your-back

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Tony Arcieri
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