On 24/04/2020, 22:35, "Eric Rescorla" <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:29 PM chris - <chrispat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would need to study the specs in order to provide an intelligent
> > answer here. Off the hip, it would seem to depend on how the
> > boundaries between record headers and ciphertexts are determined.
> > Taking a quick look at draft-37, Fig. 4: the "full" header includes
> > three values that are excluded from the "minimal" header, the length
> > of the ciphertext being one of the fields. Presumably, when using
> > the "minimal" header, the length is a parameter that the sender and
> > receiver already agree on.
>
> Yes. It's "the rest of the UDP datagram".

I might be missing something but this doesn't look to me like the
definition of "agreed upon" by the TLS principals: an attacker can
modify what "the rest of the datagram" is at will, no?



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