I am opposed. Anonymous email recommendations are not how the IETF operates.

Attached below is a note I wrote a month ago to the Chairs.  None of the points 
written there – and MOST of them were a summary of WG discussion – were 
addressed.



From: Rich Salz <rs...@akamai.com<mailto:rs...@akamai.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 at 1:49 PM
To: "tls-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:tls-cha...@ietf.org>" 
<tls-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:tls-cha...@ietf.org>>
Subject: Rethinking the formal analysis triage

TLS Chairs,

I wasn’t sure whether to send this to you or the entire WG. I let another 
person read this and they suggested the Chairs.  So here you go.

I re-read all the messages in the archive [1] and re-watched the 119 and 120 
segments on the triage panel.  I believe that, as currently set up, it is so 
flawed that it should be taken down and rebuilt from scratch.

After the idea was proposed in March, the two most common feedback suggestions 
were
    • Collaborate with UFMRG
    • Make all communications open and on the mailing list
Neither of these were done. In fact, there was no response from the Chairs on 
either point.

From the beginning, the stated intent was the that one thing the panel would 
provide is an estimate of how much work any suggested analysis would take. The 
one review that was done so far did not include that, other than “feasible.”

Many people have already commented that collating all responses is a bad idea. 
I want to add one point that I have not seen before: if a subset of the triage 
reviewers recommends analysis, the WG has no information about the 
qualifications of those making the recommendation and no way to evaluate how to 
accept it.

This brings up a related point. Anonymous evaluations are against the very 
nature of the IETF. How can we assess the value of someone’s contributions when 
we don’t know who they are? Will “Reviewer 1” always be the same person? If the 
entire panel did not do a review, are WG members expected to treat all members 
as equally competent and qualified?

The WG is strongly in favor of more formal analysis. The Chairs tried to do too 
much and failed. Start over, respond to the feedback you got from the WG, and 
pick something easier.

[1]  https:/mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/?q=triage


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