> On Nov 3, 2024, at 4:31 PM, Joseph Salowey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 25, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Viktor Dukhovni <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 08:30:45AM -0400, Sean Turner wrote: >> >>> The TLS list is infamous in that it is regarded by some as [insert >>> your descriptive word; where the chairs have heard the following words >>> used: noxious, toxic, unwelcoming, and rude]. The chairs want to >>> change this reputation and we hope you do too. A big part of this is >>> on the chairs to be be more proactive about moderating behavior that >>> goes against IETF WG procedures, code of conduct, etc. The chairs are >>> also going to send a monthly reminder, which is included below, that >>> will serve to remind everyone from those who joined just today to >>> those who joined many, many years ago of the policies and procedures >>> that apply to IETF mailing lists. >> >> One of the ways in which this WG is sometimes unwelcoming is not covered >> by the called out unprofessional behaviour. Rather, this list at times >> appears to be dominated by a single browser-centric world-view, and a >> dominant set of entrenched participants. Perspectives from less >> dominant sectors of the TLS user community may not always receive due >> consideration. >> >> I did not see being open to a broader set of perspectives on the list of >> goals. It was just the usual set of blatant violations of social norms. >> > > Hi Viktor, > > While there is overlap between professional behavior and the perceived focus > on browser specific use cases; I think we should try to separate out the > topic. > We should make sure that different perspectives are welcome and heard on the > list, however it will not always be the case that we will have consensus to > move the discussion forward on a particular topic, which will limit continued > discussion of that topic. For topics that are not broadly applicable to main > TLS use cases there may be more appropriate groups such as UTA or EMU. This > is probably something we can address better in the TLS WG FAQ [1]. > > [1] https://github.com/tlswg/tlswg-wiki/blob/master/FAQ.md
Hi! We have updated the TLS WG FAQ: https://github.com/tlswg/tlswg-wiki/blob/master/FAQ.md Feel free to comment on the wiki. Note that we are going to send two monthly reminders; one about mail list procedures and one about the FAQ. spt
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