I am in favor of adoption.

Obligatory bias notice: I am a coauthor...

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From: Sean Turner <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 3:26 AM
To: TLS List <[email protected]>
Subject: [TLS] Re: Second WG Adoption Call for Use of SLH-DSA in TLS 1.3

Hi! Just a reminder that this call closes on Monday.

spt

> On Jul 15, 2025, at 00:05, Sean Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We kicked off an adoption call for Use of SLH-DSA in TLS 1.3; see [0]. We 
> called consensus [1], and that decision was appealed. We have reviewed the 
> messages and agree that we need to redo the adoption call to get more input.
>
> What appears to be the most common concern, which we will take from Panos' 
> email, is that "SLH-DSA sigs are too large and slow for general use in TLS 
> 1.3 applications". One way to address this concern is to add an applicablity 
> statement to address this point. We would like to propose that this (or 
> something close to this) be added to the I-D:
>
> Applications that use SLH-DSA need to be aware that the signatures sizes are 
> large; the signature sizes for the cipher suites specified herein range from 
> 7,856 to 49,856 bytes. Likewise, the cipher suites are considered slow. While 
> these costs might be amoritized over the cost of a long lived connection, the 
> cipher suites specified herein are not considered for general use in TLS 1.3.
>
> With this addition in mind, we would like to start another WG adoption call 
> for draft-reddy-tls-slhdsa. If you support adoption with the above text (or 
> something similar) and are willing to review and contribute text, please send 
> a message to the list. If you do not support adoption of this draft with the 
> above text (or something similar), please send a message to the list and 
> indicate why. This call will close at 2359 UTC on 28 July 2025.
>
> Cheers,
> Deirdre, Joe, and Sean
>
> [0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/o4KnXjI-OpuHPcB33e8e78rACb0/
> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/hhLtBBctK5em6l82m7rgM6_hefo/
> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-reddy-tls-slhdsa/

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