It may sound better for us to have specifications that technically work for the 
server in such scenarios prefering either PQ cert chains or classical chains.

The QoS for the two choices will depend on the maturity of PQ transimission, 
and this can be changed gradually. So, such servers can change their preferece 
gradually as well.

Guilin

发件人:Viktor Dukhovni <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
收件人:tls <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
时 间:2025-08-06 22:31:09
主 题:[TLS] Re: Server dual-chains in the period of PQ transition

On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 09:28:07AM +0200, Dmitry Belyavsky wrote:

> We came across the following scenario: Server has 2 cert chains, PQ
> and classical, and prefers PQ.

If this is for a public HTTPS server, my take is that it is premature
for the server to offer PQ certificates signed by non-WebPKI CAs. Since
there are no PQ roots in the WebPKI trust bundle, PQ HTTP server server
certificates are best avoided for now.

ML-DSA works for my SMTP server, because SMTP default to unauthenticated
opportunistic TLS, and DANE TLSA "3 1 1" records don't rely on a CA
signature. In application protcols where TLS is by default authenticated,
PQ certs are not yet ready for prime-time.

So basically, the onus to do the interoperable thing is primarily on the
server: don't deploy certs the expected client community can't verify,
be they PQ or "classical".

Perhaps TA negotiation will help some time, till then take appropriate
care.

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    Viktor. 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!

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