> > Those messages still seem to be secret, > Our message can be found in Paul's response under the heading of > "received appeal text".
"Message"? Here's what we've been told: "Eric Rescorla immediately contacted" the chairs; then there were a "number of back and forth messages"; then "Eric Rescorla contacted the chairs privately"; then "Eric Rescorla, Richard Barnes, and Martin Thomson all objected privately"; then the AD received email "from Eric Rescorla, Richard Barnes and Martin Thomson" and email "from Tim Hollebeek". That sounds like a dozen or so secret messages, not one message. The fragmentary information that has been released falls far short of what's required by Section 8 of RFC 2026, which I'll quote here: > Each of the organizations involved in the development and approval of > Internet Standards shall publicly announce, and shall maintain a > publicly accessible record of, every activity in which it engages, to > the extent that the activity represents the prosecution of any part > of the Internet Standards Process. For purposes of this section, the > organizations involved in the development and approval of Internet > Standards includes the IETF, the IESG, the IAB, all IETF Working > Groups, and the Internet Society Board of Trustees. ... The formal > record of an organization's standards-related activity shall include > at least the following: ... > o the archives of Working Group electronic mail mailing lists; and > o all written contributions from participants that pertain to the > organization's standards-related activity. This requires IETF to publish not just the mailing-list archives but _all_ email regarding IETF's activity related to standards. WGs and the IESG are specifically named as being subject to this obligation, so concretely the WG chairs and IESG members such as the ADs are obliged to publish the secret complaints/appeals/messages regarding this TLS WG call. I should also preemptively note that burying the records at some obscure location, rather than presenting clear complete copies on the TLS mailing list, would violate "accessible". ---D. J. Bernstein _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
