Eric Rescorla writes:
> Isn't it this message?
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/pxFgT-VA6hgdd-cAoIkA_7xS99Y/

_Now_ it's there, yes, after a massive delay inside the IETF mail
system, specifically at the following step:

    Received: from mail2.ietf.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C0C733A91A
        for <[email protected]>; Tue, 14 Oct 2025 
07:35:28
        -0700 (PDT)
    X-Original-To: [email protected]
    Delivered-To: [email protected]
    Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5910E72B5B96
        for <[email protected]>; Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:34:00 -0700 (PDT)

See the jump from 13 Oct 2025 13:34:00 -0700 to 14 Oct 2025 07:35:28
-0700? That's 18 hours on hold inside mail2.ietf.org.

---D. J. Bernstein


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