Hi Paul, It is precisely because the chairs and AD (assuming that you're referring to yourself in the third person) are working on calling the 2nd WGLC outcome that it's not the right time to behave in ways that could be seen as additional shortcomings in terms of process or transparency! It's important for everyone to feel that whatever the outcome, it can be accepted as credible and legitimate, especially after the contentious reaction to the first WGLC where the AD repeatedly (and rather aggressively) insisted that there was rough consensus when there was none.
> Second, in your reading of the FATT process, we would need to pull both > pure mlkem and the hybrid mlkem document. Is that what you are asking? This is a strange question to ask, because it basically amounts to: "as an AD, I've been failing to ensure that the rules are correctly applied since the beginning, and if we correctly apply them, then it threatens the legitimacy of a lot of our work! Is this what you want?!" On Thu, Mar 5, 2026, at 5:01 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Thu, 5 Mar 2026, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: > >> I would also appreciate more transparency regarding what’s happening with >> FATT, especially given the >> series of inconsistent behaviors by the WG AD and chairs as it relates to >> the continued attempts to >> force through the adoption of the ML-KEM-only key agreement draft despite a >> lack of rough consensus. >> Now is not the time for the chairs to behave in a way that allows for >> uncharitable interpretations. > > One, the Chairs and AD are still working on calling the 2nd WGLC > outcome, so I find your phrasing very objectionable. And that's not > even talking about the TLS list being drowend in message preventing a > content discussion about text changes work that came to us as a work > item after the 1st WGLC. > > Second, in your reading of the FATT process, we would need to pull both > pure mlkem and the hybrid mlkem document. Is that what you are asking? > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] -- Nadim Kobeissi Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
