You really need to be using multiple mechanisms. In addition, I highly recommend against using TMDA first, you should be using that as your last line of defense.

Chris Berry
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bob wrote:
Rumor has it that in this case the 'auto responder' is actually a notriously
misconfigured MTA.

I welcome any input on post-TMDA filtering, though I really was hoping on
not having to work with more than one mechanism.  TMDA has been great.




On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:58:19PM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:

On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 09:00:57PM -0600, bob wrote:


It looks like there may need to be a more complex confiormation
mechanism needed soon, as it appears soone has written an
autoresponder tailored to TMDA (and is using a non-bogus email
address.)

I don't agree with your conclusion here. TMDA is doing exactly what it's supposed to do: confirm that the envelope-sender is real, and that the sender is who he says he is from an MTA perspective. Whether or not the envelope-sender is a spammer isn't really TMDA's job to determine.

Once you have a legitimate confirmation (even from a spammer), TMDA
*should* release the email. Then it's up to procmail, bogofilter,
spamassassin, or whatever to determine if the *content* is spam.

I've gotten a few of these emails in the past few days, too, but they
don't trouble me: bogofilter clearly identifies the spam as a 419 scam,
and circular files it. And if I wanted to be more proactive, since I
have a confirmed envelope-sender, I can blacklist the source at the MTA
level.

So, I think the solution is simply to enable post-TMDA content
filtering. If you need help with this, let me know, and I'll point you
to some resources.

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