From: Raphael
          Subject: Re: Raph Baiting Re: thoughts on new cartoon
          Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:13:04 -0800


      > *chuckles at the irony of how Raph is standing up for himself*

      One must stand up for oneself in this world ;-)

LOL! But of course, it just wouldn't be Raph if he fell over like a
marshmellow.

      > I have to agree with Raph.  They were trying to capture the
overall
      > rowdiness between those two.  If you remeber in the old Mirage
comics,
      > they were throwing each other around quite a bit it seemed.

      Yeppers, I mean, Raph 'coulda killed Mike!' in the beginning of
the Raphael
      one-shot.

That's very true. And I recall with some laughs, the early days when
Raph and Mikey were younger and tossing each other around to the bane of
some furniture's existence. We have to remember the cartoon is 'starting
over' and going back to the younger days, even while the comic is giving
us the fun of seeing them in the thirties.
Let's not forget the Raph v. Leo fight in the first issue of Return to
NY either....


      > > > Perhaps I just don't agree with pushing people down a hole
*Shrugs*
      > > Maybe I'm just trying to defend Raph, for some reason ;-)
      >
      > Nah... Lee's just taking sides to the passiveness.  I noticed a
few
      > other fans who are generally ultra nice thought Raph was being
too
      > rough.

      Now what's really funny is that I've been 'accused' of being too
passive for
      Raph, yet I think he was just fine on Saturday's show.

Gee, Raph, you just can't make them happy, no matter what you do?
Anyone want to go back and re-read the Mirage Raph solo with Casey? I am
waiting to see how that will goin the cartoon! But the point is, Raph
wasn't just a nice punster, but a punisher in that issue, let alone
others. (Oh, oh, I am treading on dangerous ground bordering on puns!
;p)
And I don't think Shredder is going to be cartoon pushover at all. He's
going to be MASTER Ninja, and shrewd, cunning, and I think from what we
read on the TMNT pages, have a businessmanlike approach to things. You
can't have wimpy heroes with a super strict villian unless you're doing
a comedy. Raph's going to need that "tude" later on, methinks! (As in
things like Return to NY?)


      > I'll be watching to see if Mike and Raph goof around when
Splinter is
      > not looking.  They seem to only do so when he's not around.
Getting
      > "bapped" or hit on the head with a stick is also a common form
of
      > martial art discipline when one is misbehaving.  With is why Don

      > thwacked Mike on the head for making fun of Splinter (the
master).
      > That, or having to do a hundred knuckle pushups, or backflips!
;p

      Everytime Splints was doing battle with those Mousers, I just kept
thinking
      "Don't mess with the "Rat with Stick!"".

:D

      Raph "> (Evil snow...)

Awwww..... poor frozen great white north Raph. I would try to send some
nicer warm sunbeams your way, but we are actually expecting rain the
next few days.

Leonardo


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