Whoa.. Karai, your advice was approximately what I told Brina in our
email we've been passing back and forth.  I guess that little editorial
advice I got from Phish a couple years back did help me see the light! 
;)  

The next task... just remebering to stay consistsent on those grammar
rules.  I tend to to let them slide when I get "caught up in the
moment" at times.  *lol*


~HT



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I agree (and strongly disagree) with a lot of what's been said.  It
> happens to be that dialogue is one of my pet peeves.  So get ready
> for the Karai's Dialogue Rant.
> 
> To answer Brina's question, you can write either "he said" or "said
> he."  Both are grammatically correct.  In American writing, though,
> the more common form is "he said."  Also, he can put the dialogue tag
> at either the beginning or end of the dialouge, but traditionally in
> America it is used at the end of the sentence.
> 
> This is my main disagreement with everyone: I don't think you should
> vary your way of writing a dialogue tag.  If you write it "he said,"
> always write it "he said."  If you want the reverse of that, always
> do the reverse.  You must teach your reader how to read your writing,
> so if you're not consistent you will confuse your reader.  You want
> your story to be easy to read.  Dialogue tags are garnish, not the
> meat; you don't want attention called to them.
> 
> This is my big pet peeve with dialogue tags: they're useless.  If
> there's a piece of dialogue in quotations, obviously someone said it.
>  Saying "said" adds *nothing* to the writing.  And if you have a
> question mark, it's obvious it was "asked."  The only thing dialouge
> tags are good for is denoting a speaker, and what better way to do
> that than add an action (I know Siren mentioned this).  Just
> remember, if you have a piece of dialouge, the action needs to
> correspond with the speaker.  And if you have a new action with
> another character, that needs to go in a new paragraph.
> 
> One of my other pet peeves with dialogue tags is when they're wordy. 
> People like using  simultaneous action and create tags like, "Leo
> said, spinning his swords."  DON'T DO THIS!  It's annoying, wordy and
> ruins the rhythm and flow of your story.  Why not just say, "Leo spun
> his swords," instead of using a dialogue tag at all?  So much neater
> and more efficient.
> 
> And lastly, on punctuation, there are two ways to address the
> punctuation of dialogue if a dialogue tag interrupts dialogue from
> the same speaker.
> 
> 1. If the dialogue tag occurs after a complete sentence, a comma is
> used inside the quotation marks and a period follows the dialogue
> tag.  The continuing dialogue begins as a new sentence with a capital
> letter on the first word inside the quotation marks.  An example: "I
> don't know what you're talking about," Raph said.  "We didn't go
> anywhere last night."
> 
> 2. If the dialogue tag is interrupting a sentence, a comma is used
> both inside the quotation marks and following the dialogue tag.  The
> continuing dialogue is part of the same sentence and has a lower case
> letter on the first word inside the quotation marks.  An example: 
> "We know you went out.  Your coats," Leo said, "were missing."
> 
> Those are a few things I've noticed people have a lot of trouble
> with.  One day I'm going to write a book on writing and have an
> entire chapter just for dialogue--I gave you the abridged version of
> Karai's Dialouge Rant.  If anyone wants more dialogue advice (or
> other writing advice), please feel free to ask.  I think my creative
> writing degree and editing internships should be put to more use.
> 
> --Karai
> 


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