+1 

Costin

On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Nacho wrote:

> Shai has contributed great bug fixes ( one specially difficult in 3.2,
> thanks Shai ) and he wants to contribute a distributed session manager
> !!!! 
> 
> It has been proposed as committer by Craig in a informal way, now it's
> proposed in a formal way :-)
> 
> it has my +1 as well +1 from Craig in the message below.
> 
> Votes , please.
> 
> Saludos ,
> Ignacio J. Ortega
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el: jueves 21 de diciembre de 2000 20:14
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto: Re: Tomcat session replicator
> 
> 
> Shai, 
> I apologize for not responding to you earlier ... substantive
> discussions are getting a little lost in the noise at the moment. 
> For some reason, my Netscape mail reader won't let me intersperse
> comments -- so I've put them at the end. 
> I think I read into your earlier comment that you'd be interested in
> being a committer to work on this stuff. If you're still interested,
> you've got my +1. 
> Craig 
>  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> Two weeks ago I posted note here saying Im going to write patch for
> Tomcat 3.2 to support redundancy, in manner of having session
> information stored between reloads and shared between tomcat instances.
>  
>  
>  
> In order to support tomcat redundancy I thought on implementing that in
> two phases: 
> 1.    (dumping) While shutting down Tomcat it will save sessions in
> file and reload them while going up. This feature will allow restarting
> tomcat without loosing state. 
> 2.    (replication) Sending session from one Tomcat to another (AKA:
> buddy). This will allow the session to have backup on another machine.
> mod_jkwill send user connection requests to the second machine while the
> original machine is unavailable. 
> 
> Number 1. above is already implemented, and 2. is going to be finish
> soon. 
> The question I have is: Should I implement the session replicator
> listener as stand-alone connector, or incorporate in into Ajpv13? This
> will require adding two commands to the protocol implementation. 
> Options: 
> 1.    Stand-alone connector. This will require another listener. 
> 2.    Incorporate it into Ajp13. 
> 3.    Incorporate it into Ajp13 and calling it Ajp14. 
> 
> Other ideas? 
> 
> Implementation details will be followed soon.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________
>  
> Shai Fultheim 
> Chief Technology Officer 
> BRM Seed 
> 
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> The biggest problem I have with integrating session replication into
> AJPxx is that it means this will only work if you're running Apache
> connected, versus when Tomcat is running stand alone. Even in that
> environment, does the Apache instance really need to know what's going
> on? Wouldn't it just be a case of updating the cookie to include the new
> "router" information when you migrate a session from one JVM to another?
> 
> Personally, I'd like to see a session migration mechanism that works
> between the "back end" Tomcat instances. There are probably few enough
> of those (in most use cases) that you can maintain a spiderweb of
> persistent connections that is used only to communicate session
> migration information. 
> Just as a small technical detail -- the servlet spec says that an
> application *must* run within a single JVM unless it marks itself as
> distributable/ in the deployment descriptor -- don't forget to check for
> that. 
> As to what version of Tomcat to work on, no matter what the future holds
> it seems like the current 3.2 code base is not really appropriate for
> major innovation. I would only point out that the 4.0 architecture has
> an interface (org.apache.catalina.Store) behind which session migration
> stuff can easily be hidden -- as well as support for persistence,
> swapping, and other advanced features -- without modifying the remainder
> of the servlet container. Several other folks have expressed interest in
> working on this at various times, so collaboration would be quite
> useful. 
> Craig McClanahan 
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