On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, James Duncan Davidson wrote:
> After all, it seemed clear to me that the PMC's role was too narrowly
> defined to include "niceness overseers".
As a college student who's just getting involved with Apache after working
on some other projects over the years, I think it's refreshing to see
people like Jon. As far as I'm concerned, the worst thing that can happen
on a project is for people to be muzzled or kicked out of the project for
saying what they think. If Jon hadn't written his initial e-mail, where
would we be right now? As far as I can tell we'd still be coding along
aimlessly until this came to a head at a later date, in a bigger way, with
two comparable 2.3 sevlet engines and much more user confusion.
I'm sure that if everyone in the community had disagreed with Jon's
initial post and told him to fuck off he would have either came to agree
or left the project. What happened, though, is that it showed
how the community was polarized, cleared up everyone's plans for the
future, and gave us a roadmap where there wasn't one before.
Whether or not you agree with the way he puts things or whether or not
he's "nice" enough, you have to admit that he took the initiative to kick
this project in the ass and make sure that its goals and future were
clearly defined when he decided that they weren't. If that involves
pissing some people off or hurting some feelings along the way, then so be
it. As far as I can tell, every good project should have someone like
him. The last thing we need is the idea police here to make sure that
no one is offended by someone's postings not being up to their standards
of niceness. It seems to me that if you can't handle having your ideas
being called shit then you should keep them to yourself and not
participate here.
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Kurt Schrader
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