Hi,

could you get around the singleton problem by placing the singleton object's
class outside the classloader which get busted when reloading the changed
servlets/jsps? You could move it up to the 'shared' or even 'common'
classspace. Do I understand it right, that these class loaders are not being
destroyed when TC is running? I'm not so deep into that matter, maybe I
completely misunderstand something...

Mika

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From: "Kevin A. Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: 4.0.1 ClassLoader breaks singletons on webapp reload.


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> Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > on 11/25/01 9:57 PM, "Remy Maucherat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, there's a reason for this, as a selective reloading would
be a
> > > very complex thing to do.
> > >
> > > Remy
> >
> > More like damn near impossible. Once the previous classloader has been
> > trashed, all objects which were created within it would then become
invalid.
> >
> > Kevin, the right thing to do is to setup something like Turbine's
Services
> > which have a shutdown process which can be invoked when the servlets
destroy()
> > method is called in order to shutdown the singletons.
>
> Ah.  Interesting.  This technique would work but would require the
'restart'
> (there's that word again) the whole application.
>
> ... at this point I think it might make sense just to restart Tomcat as
shutting
> down and restarting the app would take just as long as a full restart.
>
> It is a shame because there is a lot of potential in just reloading that
one
> class.
>
> > Sadly, I have to admit that the Turbine Services framework shutdown code
is
> > currently broken and has been for some time now...it needs to be
re-written...
>
> Are you saying that the theory is broken or just Turbine's impl?
>
> Kevin
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