----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Schmid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:03 AM Subject: AW: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution
> Hi, > > I would like to have the possibility to not include jasper in our production > system. > > We are using TC 3.3.2-dev plus Velocity. > > It does not really hurt us, but having fewer code is always better IHMO :) > I really love the modularity og TC 3.3.x > > Bill, can you give me hints, how to patch TC 3.3.2-dev to exclude jasper ? > If you remove JspInterceptor from server.xml in TC 3.3.2-dev (or even 3.3.1), Tomcat will no longer understand anything about JSPs. In this case, it will be a Servlet-only container. > > Another thought regarding the Admin Webapp in TC 4.x/TC 5.0: > (please forgive me if I am completly off the track here) > > I would rather like to be able to use the Admin Webapp on a seperate remote > Admin Tomcat to control our production system. I really do not want to > install > such sensitive code on our live servers. So the Admin Webapp could connect > to the > production Tomcat and execute for example ant tasks to restart contexts, > deploy a webapp > and so on. > > (The localhost shutdown restriction is no option, since our servers are at > out ISP > and have to be controlled from within our office.) > > Thanks, > Hans > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Bill Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. Dezember 2002 09:59 > > An: Tomcat Developers List > > Betreff: Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > > > > It would cause nightmares if you knew how badly I've got my e-mails > > cross-linked :). > > > > This is to +1 the original VOTE. While I'm personally a heavy JSP user, > > having patched TC 3.3.x to allow it to run in servlet-only mode, I see the > > need for offering a servlet-only container. > > > > According to the Costin-vote-watch, we still need at least one more > > (binding) +1 to authorize a servlet-only release of Tomcat. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "IAS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Tomcat Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:02 PM > > Subject: RE: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > > > > > I'm very glad to see this vote proposal because it seems to me like the > > > first step of Servlet/JSP mutual independence. > > > > > > Two months ago I proposed Tomcat architectural refactoring plan (at that > > > time "Tomcat subproject plan") on > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34720.html. > > > I also showed JSF+Struts+Catalina ensemble on > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35116.html > > > and a possible Jasper-Catalina relationship on > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35119.html. > > > I sincerely understand a very few of Tomcat committers share interest in > > > this issue like jean-frederic clere's seconding on > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34768.html. > > > > > > > > > In my humble opinion, in terms of technology, it is not imperative that > > > Servlet should go with JSP. In fact, the mother of Tomcat, JServ also > > > started as a Servlet engine. In other words, Servlet technology itself > > > is independent one. It also implies that Java Web developers have > > > freedom of choosing dynamic page generation technology over Servlet. We > > > can say we have right to use JSP, but on the other hand, we have right > > > not to use JSP in purely technical perspective. > > > > > > However, I totally agree on the need that we deliver JSP equipped Tomcat > > > for the majority of Tomcat users who are very familiar with JSP (even > > > cannot live without JSP like me :-). I guess the problem is "Who will do > > > (or exactly speaking, be willing to do) the job, i.e. making > > > Servlet-only-Tomcat since we need a considerable number of Tomcat > > > committers (Costin said 3) for that. If we get wide support from Tomcat > > > committers but they can't afford the job, how about gathering > > > Servlet-only-Tomcat team whether they belong to committers or not? I > > > hope there would be many people who will volunteer for that, including > > > myself. The detailed processes respecting the work could be discussed > > > from now on, and this chance might be a new attempt to develop greater > > > Tomcat empowered by volunteers. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > IAS > > > > > > =========================================================== > > > Lee, Changshin (Korean name) > > > IAS (International name) > > > Company Web Site: http://www.tmax.co.kr > > > Personal Web Site: http://www.iasandcb.pe.kr > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Senior Researcher & Java Technology Evangelist > > > JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/L > > > R&D Institute > > > Tmax Soft, Inc. > > > JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/T > > > ========================================================== > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:09 AM > > > > To: tomcat-dev > > > > Subject: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > > > > > > Create a separate minimal JSR 154 only distribution of Tomcat 4.x: > > > > > > > > +1 [] > > > > 0 [] > > > > -1 [] > > > > > > > > -jon > > > > > > > > -- > > > > StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment > > > > 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco > > > > http://studioz.tv/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
