Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Maybe, but the Geronimo front page
(http://incubator.apache.org/geronimo/index.html) says
"The aim of the project is to produce a large and healthy community of
J2EE developers tasked with the development of an open source, certified
J2EE server, that is ASF licensed and passes Sun's TCK reusing the best
ASF/BSD licensed code available today and adding new code to complete
the J2EE stack."  Jetty is not ASF or BSD licensed, it's got its own
license.

This seems wrong to me.

As an aside, every time I look at the Jetty web site I get annoyed at
something else.  Today's annoyance is the number of items on their
"powered by Jetty" page (http://www.mortbay.com/mortbay/powered.html)
that aren't powered by Jetty: Cactus?  Cocoon?  BrowserTunnel
(decommissioned)?  DieselPoint (mentions tomcat and other compatible
servers, doesn't even mention Jetty)?  The list goes on and on, I don't
have time to get past D in the alphabet.  And last time it was the 300K
claim which they admitted on their list is false for any realistic
context.  I have to stop myself here, before I get too angry/frustrated.
I just can't stand false advertising.

Indeed, we never make any claims ourselves (maybe a little bit more claims wouldn't hurt ;) ), except that we implement the specs (and the obligatory new features lists, because otherwise we would be deluged under "what's new in 5.0 ?" questions).


Anyway, in addition to working for a competitor, I have problems advising people to invest time adapting Tomcat to Geronimo, as the initial assertion is that "Jetty is the default container". Things which are added as a second thought never work (in JB land, we had to refactor stuff, and I envision more refactoring will occur to have a more integrated and manageable - ie, useful - stack), and there's a question of testing as fewer people will use it (which will undoubtedly give TC a bad name).

But I suppose some people will one day see a use for it and will do it, and hopefully it will work well (itch => scratch).

Rémy


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