William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
At 01:25 PM 7/11/2005, you wrote:
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
It's important for students involved with SoC to learn to use
the tools of our organization;
I don't agree with you. The Tomcat is not place for some
'sandbox' projects.
If the ASF have some agreement with Google then it should
have created a 'SoC Google sandbox' not trying to force
every project to create a 'Google sandbox'.
The ASF didn't agree with Google that 'we need more code'
(many projects seem overwhelmed at times by the amount of code
they manage already, no slight intended...) The ASF agreed that
Open Source needs to continue to grow in contributors.
The only way to grow more contributors is to have them learn
in-place. The mentor's job is to help them set up, avoid the
usual foibles, help them participate in the community, and do
a bit of steering of the project. Because the entire pace is
'accelerated' it is humanistically challenging, but far from
impossible to bring an individual up to speed over a month or
few.
So it's unusual, and we aren't handing away keys to the entire
kingdom. But setting up a sandbox (not your problem, it's the
mentors) and watching the progress (if it scratches your itch)
is not an imposition on the individual project communities.
Ok, so if we say it's the mentor's responsability, then it should be
fine. I'll let the persons I'm mentoring know about the infrstructure we
chose, then.
Rémy
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