Hi,
My take on it would be that tomcat restarts are fast, and so no such
page is needed.  If yours takes a long time to restart, you probably
have extra applications or processing taking place on shutdown/startup.
If you really do need to do a bunch of stuff on startup AND you must
have this system unavailable page display during this time, follow Tim's
Apache approach...

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:58 AM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: how to show "System Unavailable" page when Tomcat is down
>
>Type 3 drivers are better than type 1. (But that depends on the
>implementation) The JDBC-ODBC driver was *never* meant for production
>usage.
>
>I know little about IIS - but I would hope there is a button that can
be
>clicked, or a tab in some property screen that would let you do the
>equivalent of sending all traffic to a single page.
>
>-Tim
>
>Stephen Charles Huey wrote:
>
>> If we currently have Tomcat 4 running on Win 2000, would there be
>> significant overhead to run Apache as well just so that we can put up
an
>> error page when Tomcat has to be restarted?
>>
>> Some of you mentioned I should try using a type 4 driver, and I
Googled
>> around to brush up on different types, and I realize we probably use
a
>> type 1 driver since it's a JDBC to ODBC bridge.  The database we're
>> using is Raining Data's D3 database (a multivalue db), and I searched
>> around and only found a couple of JDBC drivers that look like they
might
>> work, but they're type 3 drivers, and I'm wondering what (if any)
>> additional layer I need to make a type 3 driver talk to the D3
database,
>> or if I can simply drop it into my J2EE/Tomcat.  These are the
drivers I
>> found:
>>
>> FusionWare, halfway down the page:
>> http://www.sqlsummit.com/JDBCVend.htm
>>
>> Liberty JDBC:
>> http://www.multivalue.com/LibJDBC.html
>>
>>
>> ----- Original message -----
>> From: "David Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:10:11 -0400
>> Subject: Re: how to show "System Unavailable" page when Tomcat is
down
>>
>> To directly answer your question, essentially something has to be
>> listening on port 80 even when Tomcat is down.  The only way I know
of
>> to do that is to put up some kind of proxy server with a error page.
I
>> know Apache can be used that way, Squid looks like it could as well.
>>
>> On the other hand, you could also replace your ODBC driver with a
>> genuine type 4 driver and make your site much more reliable.  I think
>> someone else already suggested that and I whole-heartedly agree.
>>
>> --David
>>
>> Stephen Huey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Though I'm capable of adding to the JSPs and servlets on an existing
>>>site, I'm no web server guru, so I'm having a hard time with this
>>>problem.  Our database vendor's ODBC driver has issues, so
occasionally
>>>we have to restart Tomcat (and maybe the driver) to get the website
>>>running again, and since this is used by thousands of people every
day,
>>>they can get pretty annoyed when all they see in their browser is
"Page
>>>cannot be displayed" (and this can go on for anywhere from 5-15
>>>minutes).
>>>We need a way to show some redirect requests for the website to some
>>>static HTML page when Tomcat is down.  Since Tomcat is running our
>>>website, I'm really not sure of how to provide a solution for that
(we
>>>don't have multiple application servers--just one web server and one
>>>database server).  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Stephen
>>>
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