Is it? Hope you don't lie. Do you? -----Original Message----- From: Ivan Jouikov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:28 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worstthingsto ever happen
Jesus agrees with me. > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurence Arabia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worstthingsto > ever happen > > > Exactly I agree when you are dealing with a team of 30+ delvelopers you > either hold reviews every month and tie everyone down to a structure that > evolves causing confusion and rewrites or the whole lot goes to pot. Which > is fine if you work for a finance house with buckets of money but where > productivity is more important than process C++ would not be my choice. > Degres of abstraction are more difficult to attain. I would like to hear > the opinion of a hardcore C++ programmer. Cause I would like to know the > faults in this argument as I am sure there is. The performance question I > think is almost irrelvant. If you want performance write C/Assembler in a > kernel module perferably but ultimately its comes back to a some > marshalling > code whose structure has to be easily evolved and adapted its nature is > almost disposable as protocols and business rules change. > > Whats the opinion on gcj ? > > > >From: "SANTOS, DANIEL (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the > worstthingsto > >ever happen Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:22:25 -0500 > > > >If this is the case then I ask you why Java has been the number one > >programming language for 4 years now? As was recognized long ago, > >performance is not everything. And in fact, means little when you can't > >get your product out the door because you are still trying to chase down > >memory leaks, buffer overruns and corrupted pointers. As somebody else > >said, C++ programmers will understand this. > > > >Daniel > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Eric VERGNAUD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:33 AM > >To: Tomcat Users List > >Subject: Re: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the > worstthingsto > >ever happen > > > > > >le 4/07/04 14:27, SH Solutions Ð [EMAIL PROTECTED] a Ðcrit : > > > > > Right now, I would say that java applications (if well written) are at > >least > > > half as fast as c applications (also well written). > > > >Which means that when your java app is in competition with a native app, > >youve lost the market. > > > >------------------------------- > >Eric VERGNAUD - JLynx Software > >Cutting-edge technologies and > >services for software companies > >web: http://www.jlynx.com > >------------------------------- > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Want to block unwanted pop-ups? Download the free MSN Toolbar now! > http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 05.07.2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 05.07.2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]