I don't mean to be contrary, I am just trying to pin this down.  The
database and tomcat server are only separated by a 10/100 switch.  I am
going to run filemon and watch for access denied messages, then regmon
and watch for similar things.  The network is very fast, the db server
is not being used by anyone else.  It seems to me that if it were
environmental, it would affect these other programming languages the
same.  I checked and the jtds.jar file is in tomcat\common\lib.  

Any other thoughts while you wait for the results from filemon and
regmon?

Thank you
Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:44 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: JTDS help

Hi,

No it was a totally raw test of your code which by virtue of using
DriverManager does not use connection pooling even if I do have it
enabled in my web app.

jTDS installation is simply adding the JAR to tomcat/common/lib

Are you running Tomcat on the same server as the database?

Config file won't have anything to do with this. I am certain it is
environmental.

Ali.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 08 February 2005 14:41
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: JTDS help
> 
> 
> Well I must have missed something because it isn't working correctly.
> ;)  Were you using connection pooling in your test?  Perhaps I have 
> something messed up in a config file?  Or installed jTDS incorrectly?
> 
> Thanks for all your help.
> Charles
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:17 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: JTDS help
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
> I've just taken your code and run it through our Tomcat 5.5, jTDS, SQL

> Server 2000 web application and it took approx. 0.5s to compile and 
> subsequent requests were instantaneous < 0.5s.
> 
> I would look again at the issues I first noted, perhaps there is 
> something you have missed.
> 
> Cheers, Allistair.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 07 February 2005 22:42
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: RE: JTDS help
> > 
> > 
> > When I strip the code to simply this,
> > 
> > <%@ page language="java" import="java.sql.*"%> <% Connection conn =
> > DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://*.*.*.*:143
> > 3/dbname;u
> > ser=*****;password=******");
> > conn.close();
> > %>
> > 
> > It still runs slowly.  And yes it is multiple refreshes.  
> > 
> > I have tried to use connection pooling but have not been
> able to get
> > it working yet.  Also the thing that I run into with connection 
> > pooling the inability to use the SQL Statement of "select
> @@IDENTITY
> > from table".
> > With connection pooling, you run the risk of getting the ID for a 
> > record that someone else inserted with the same connection.
> > 
> > If connection pooling is the only option, I can work around that 
> > issue.
> > But it seems that if PHP, ASP, ASP.NET... Can access the
> database just
> 
> > fine without connection pooling, JSP should be able to as well.
> > 
> > Any thoughts?
> > Thanks for all your input.
> > Charles
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mario Winterer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:43 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: JTDS help
> > 
> > I do not think, jsp compilation is the problem - well, the first 
> > request will last long, but after the jsp is compiled, subsequent 
> > calls will not be remarkable slower than executing pure compiled 
> > servlet code.
> > (Charles, I hope you did not measure the time for the first request 
> > only
> > - which indeed includes compilation time, but for subsequent calls 
> > too).
> > So to me opening the connection is the major problem. 
> Because the code
> 
> > itself contains html-output, I think using jsp is quite ok.
> > The code would be much cleaner, if Charles used the JSTL
> tag-library:
> > 
> > <%@ page language="java"%>
> > <%@ taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/core"; %> <%@ 
> > taglib prefix="sql" uri="http://java.sun.com/jstl/sql"; %>
> <sql:query
> > sql="SELECT * FROM accounts" var="accounts"
> > dataSource="jndi/myDataSource"/>
> > <table>
> > <c:forEach var="acc" items="${accounts}"> <tr> <td><c:out 
> > value="${acc.ID}"/></td> <td><c:out
> value="${acc.Name}"/></td> </tr>
> > </c:forEach> </table>
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tex
> > 
> > David Smith wrote:
> > 
> > > Ok. You're doing this in a jsp. That means Tomcat is:
> > >
> > > 1) Compiling your jsp to a servlet class.
> > > 2) Building a connection from scratch as opposed to picking up a 
> > > pooled connection
> > > 3) Running the query.
> > >
> > > Of these, the first one is the most expensive operation
> followed by
> > > two. If you want fast, try doing this with a pooled
> connection and
> > > from compiled servlet code.
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > > Charles P. Killmer wrote:
> > >
> > >> Network results
> > >> Ping statistics for *.*.*.*:
> > >> Packets: Sent = 140, Received = 140, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
> > Approximate
> > >> round trip times in milli-seconds:
> > >> Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms Query Analyzer
> > returns 85
> > 
> > >> rows in 0 seconds. I modified it to only return Name and
> ID and it
> > >> still runs slow. So it cant be row size, network
> latency, hardware
> > >> should be ruled out by the fact that it runs super fast
> > through query
> > 
> > >> analyzer, and PHP and ASP.NET. Its only when I write the
> > code in JSP
> > >> for Tomcat that it slows down.
> > >>
> > >> Charles
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Allistair Crossley
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
> > >> Monday, February 07, 2005 11:37 AM
> > >> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >> Subject: RE: JTDS help
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> There's no real reason relating to Tomcat or jTDS that
> > this would run
> > 
> > >> slow. You are more likely to find answers with your
> > hardware, network
> > 
> > >> latency, database load or row size and other
> environmental factors.
> > >>
> > >> Allistair.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Charles P. Killmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Sent: 07 February 2005 17:34
> > >>> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>> Subject: JTDS help
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I am trying to get Tomcat talking to my database quickly. 
> > This code
> > >>> takes about 2-3 seconds to load. Anyone got any idea's
> why? Or if
> > >>> you run this in your environment, how well does it run?
> > >>>
> > >>> <%@ page language="java" import="java.sql.*"%> <%
> > Connection conn =
> > >>> DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:jtds:sqlserver://*.*.*.*:143
> > >>> 3/dbname;u
> > >>> ser=******;password=*******");
> > >>>
> > >>> Statement stmt =
> conn.createStatement(ResultSet.TYPE_FORWARD_ONLY,
> > >>> ResultSet.CONCUR_READ_ONLY);
> > >>> ResultSet rs;
> > >>>
> > >>> rs = stmt.executeQuery("SELECT * FROM accounts");
> > >>>
> > >>> out.println("<table>");
> > >>> String name;
> > >>> String ID;
> > >>> while (rs.next()) {
> > >>> name = rs.getString("Name");
> > >>> ID = rs.getString("ID");
> > >>> out.println("<tr><td>" + ID + "</td><td>"+name+"</td></tr>" ); }
> > >>>
> > >>> out.println( "</table>" );
> > >>>
> > >>> conn.close();
> > >>> %>
> > >>>
> > >>> This is just a JSP script, nothing is compiled. I know it
> > is better
> > >>> to compile, but I am trying to chase down this DB
> slowness first.
> > >>>
> > >>> Charles Killmer
> > >>> Netgain Technology
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