We use straight JDBC and Hibernate on our intranet. JDBC is used for where 
speed is needed, like hitting the database for nav functions etc... but 
Hibernate for pure intranet based applications like holiday forms or purchase 
ordering, because it's nice to persist/unpersist complex application model 
objects without worrying about all the SQL hassle to do this, and speed is not 
an absolute, though saying this Hibernate does not visibly slow anything down 
at all, it's actually v. quick and easy. Initial learning curve but once you're 
in it's good stuff to use, and boasts being the most widely used ORM on any 
platform, so there's good support (part of Jboss now too I believe).

That's my 2p.

Allistair.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Meadors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 14 March 2005 04:18
> To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Using hibernate
> 
> 
> I have used straight JDBC, Hibernate, and iBATIS. 
> 
> For me, the sweet spot is iBATIS. It provides very near the
> performance of JDBC, without the complexity.
> 
> IMO, I will use ORM when database vendors support it directly, not
> when I have to wrap my database in a ORM layer.
> 
> Larry
> 
> 
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:00:08 +0200, haim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We are planing to use object/relational persistence and 
> query service
> > like  hibernate or Castor JDO.
> > Does anyone have any recomaidations for the above?
> > Does anyone has good/bad experience using similar technologies?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Haim
> > 
> > 
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