Isn't there something like a mailinglist manager, who can delete entries
from the mailinglist ?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
>
>
> On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
>
> > For the sake of solving this ;-)) (will deliver me 2 more of those
> > e-mails).  I attach it again (the first message about this to the
> > maillinglist contained the attachments).
>
> I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.
>
> It's not clear at all that this is going to solve anything.
>
> Everyone knows what the bad addresses are -- I and everyone else who
> posts to the lists gets those bounce messages.  And most likely the
> list owners/managers do as well.  The point is, just knowing the bad
> addresses doesn't necessarily help.  The people whose bad addresses
> those are may be subscribed with totally different addresses.  So it
> may be difficult or impossible to figure out from those bad addresses
> the corresponding subscribed addresses to remove from the list so that
> those bounces will stop.
>
> For example, suppose [EMAIL PROTECTED] is subcribed to the list.  But because of
> address changes/canonicalization/forwarding/relaying/whatever, the
> actual receiving address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now suppose that mail to that
> address bounces for some reason or other.  When that bounce comes in
> saying [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bad address, how are you going to know to remove
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 8:27 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> > >
> > > > I attached the mails I get.. The e-mail address is in there....
> > >
> > > Attached it where?
> > >
> > > In any case, knowing what address is bouncing isn't the problem --
> > > that's in the bounce message.  The problem is finding the subscribed
> > > address that corresponds to that bad address.  Due to a variety of
> > > reasons, the address someone actually receives email at may be very
> > > different than the one they originally signed up with.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:02 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kyle Burke wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I agree.  It is very tedious.  It's definitely people
> who signed up
> > > > > > for the list with a web-based mail account and just
> stopped using
> > > > > > it.  It gets shut off because it's neglected and everyone on the
> > > > > > list pays the price.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think you can so easily categorize the problem email
> > > > > addresses.  When this has come up in the past, the problem was
> > > > > typically that the email address that is bouncing did not
> match up to
> > > > > any subscribed address -- perhaps because the message is getting
> > > > > forwarded a number of times.  In such cases, it isn't so
> easy to find
> > > > > the address to remove from the list.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can we report these bogus emails to the moderator so
> they can remove
> > > > > > that email?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kyle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:48 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's only when I send a message to the maillinglist and
> that's a lot
> > > > > > lately.. Maby that email needs to be unsubscribed by
> > > someone.. (it's not
> > > > > > mine...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mvgr,
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Guido Medina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:44 AM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe two Email that are subscribe that don't exists
> already...
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Martin van den Bemt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > To: "jakarta-tomcat-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:26 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: I'm really getting tired of these messages...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is something wrong on the maillinglist??
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Milt Epstein
> > > > > Research Programmer
> > > > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Milt Epstein
> > > Research Programmer
> > > Software/Systems Development Group
> > > Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Milt Epstein
> Research Programmer
> Software/Systems Development Group
> Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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