Remember that the heap is not the only place where memory 
is needed for the sun jdk. 
There is also the stacksize. (-Xss)

I'm not shure if this applies also to the IBM JDK.

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tõnu Põld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2001 09:33
> An: 'Tomcat Users List'
> Betreff: RE: Ever increasing heap size with Tomcat 3.2.3 !!!
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> We have a similar problem with IBM JDK 1.3.0 (JIT enabled).
> I suggest to debug the garbage collector (gc) by turning on 
> the -verbosegc
> command option. The garbage collecting activity will be 
> written to stderr.
> 
> In our case I suspect that it is JVM problem because the 
> output shows that
> 90% heap is free, but still the OutOfMemoryException occurs 
> sometimes. The
> exception occurs when the servlet application tries to 
> allocate big amount
> of memory (5Mb). Even if we set the -Xmx128m and -Xms128m the 
> error occurs,
> although the output shows that there is 90% (115Mb) free 
> space in heap.
> 
> I suspect that the OutOfMemoryError occurs because the heap gets too
> fragmented, therefore the gc can't allocate big sequential 
> memory area. This
> makes me believe that the heap defragmentation process takes 
> place very
> seldom. If big amount of memory is needed then it is 
> allocated from the end
> of the heap, but if the heap size grows close to the maximum, then the
> exception occurs. Does anybody know if there is a way to force the
> defragmentation to occur more frequently?
> 
> I have stress tested our application Sun JRE 1.2.2, and the 
> OutOfMemoryError
> never occurred.
> 
> With IBM JDK we minimized the occurrences of OutOfMemoryError 
> by setting the
> -Xms64m and -Xmx128m. In this case the garbage collector 
> keeps the heap size
> somewhere between min and max. Example from our log: 86% free
> (92324744/107150328). But if we generate too much load then 
> we still get the
> OutOfMemoryError. But at the moment our application doesn't 
> get so much
> load, so the OutOfMemoryExcpetions are rare.
> 
> Would be very thankful if anybody could confirm/explain my suspicions,
> Tõnu
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hawkins, Keith (Keith) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:34 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tomcat-user
> > Subject: Ever increasing heap size with Tomcat 3.2.3 !!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Before my manager insists that we switch to JRun,  can any of 
> > the Tomcat
> > developers help with a problem of an ever increasing heap 
> size of the
> > Tomcat java.exe. ??  (We are running Tomcat 3.2.3 and 
> > JRE1.3.1. and the
> > IIS redirector)
> > 
> > We are running a load test using LoadRunner scripts on some JSP and
> > servlets that are running under Tomcat.  The load is not all 
> > that heavy
> > but the heap size of the Tomcat java.exe process keeps growing and
> > growing. We modified the java command line to start with  
> -Xmx128m to
> > allow 128 MB of heap but we still max out after a day or 
> so.   We even
> > modified one of our servlets to create a thread that runs  
> > Runtime.gc()
> > every 30 seconds.   The LoadRunner scripts just keep logging 
> > in the same
> > 5 people via our authentication servlet so you would think 
> memory use
> > would level out at some point.
> > 
> > Nothing we do seems to keep the heap size from growing.  
> > 
> > Are there known issues with Tomcat and heap size??
> > 
> > Doing a web search revealed numerous posts with people 
> having similar
> > problems so I believe there is a problem.   The standard 
> > response these
> > people receive is to increase the heap size via -Xmx   But 
> that seems
> > like a band-aid rather than a real solution.   That just delays the
> > inevitable.
> > 
> > Any insight as to how to keep the Tomcat process from 
> > grabbing more and
> > more memory would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Keith
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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