David Cassidy wrote:

> i think that unless Im completly missing your point your missing the 
> Realm's point. (Or I am)
>
> When you log in using the realm it takes from the database all your 
> associated roles. ie
> if you have admin, editor and journo roles but you only need 'editor' 
> role for the area you want
> to go into TC gets all the roles and associates it with your principle.
>
>
> Have a look at RealmBase
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/catalina/docs/api/index.html 
>
>
> You can then get the principle for that user then check if that user 
> is in a
> given role. You can then build your page based on those roles. ( which is
> what I think you are trying to do )
>
> Hope this helps
>
> D
>
>
> jfc wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to structure my application so that the user can choose 
>> to login instead of being enexpectedly prompted to be logged in.
>>
>> It seems declarative form-based security comes with the philosophy 
>> that your URL has to explicilty request a resource which is secured 
>> under the role you wish to log in under in order for the container to 
>> know you belong to that particular role(i.e. 
>> request.getRemoteUser()). So you have to know before hand who you'd 
>> like to be logged in as.
>>
>> I could force the user to choose from a list of valid roles before he 
>> gets propmted by the j_security_check login form but I'm trying not 
>> to have force the user to identify himself to the container twice in 
>> order to be thoroughly recognized by the container.
>>
>> My question:
>>
>> Is the following possible under the latest spec and tomcat's 
>> implementation (using j2ee, declarative form-based authentication
>> ):
>>
>> 1.    user issues a request to manually log in with the custom html 
>> login form containing the users username and password;
>> 2.    server extracts role-leaf from this user's registration 
>> information from a persistent store i.e. the application holds roles 
>> in a hierarchy;
>> 3.    server does a redirect to a welcome page secured in web.xml 
>> under that role-leaf role value;
>> 4.    the configured login page has the j_security_check form 
>> prepopulated with username and password;
>> 5.    the configured login page also has an 'onload' javascript 
>> directive which automatically submits j_security_check on loading of 
>> the body.
>>
>> I haven't tried this yet but does anyone have any experience of 
>> something like this working?
>>
>> If so it would mean that an application would not have to show links 
>> whose appropriateness would only become apparent once that link had 
>> been followed(clicked) and the user had possibly failed at his 
>> attempted login.
>>
>> Sorry if this is not clear enough.
>>
>> jfc
>>
>> (the container needs to first know what role you want to log in under 
>> in order for it to successfully authenticate you under that role. It 
>> can't determine for itself which role you registered under and 
>> attempt to authenticate you under that role instead)
>>
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Thanks for that I'll have a read.

jfc



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